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(127.0.0.1) by monoceres.uberspace.de with SMTP; 15 Sep 2015 19:40:24 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Brainstorm: A new CouchDB tag-line? From: Jan Lehnardt In-Reply-To: <64AA3206-0877-495C-83E2-4159C6BE2EE9@apache.org> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 21:40:21 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <048E3CD4-F54C-4871-B372-E9126E52FB3C@apache.org> References: <20350143.1154.1441825321707.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> <404FC399-D26F-43EC-B7FA-8BC6EE75756E@b2w.com> <64AA3206-0877-495C-83E2-4159C6BE2EE9@apache.org> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Sorry for the delay, the vote goes out momentarily. Best Jan -- > On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:56, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >=20 > *nudge* everybody, get your proposals in. >=20 > I plan to start a vote on this around this time tomorrow. >=20 > Best > Jan > -- >=20 >> On 09 Sep 2015, at 22:00, Johs Ensby wrote: >>=20 >> WHY Restful freedom >> HOW Data that sync >>=20 >> WHAT=09 >> Store your data safely, on your own servers or with any leading cloud = provider. Your web applications can follow the data if you want since = CouchDB speaks JSON with any file type attached. It lets you run your = JavaScript on the server or in the browser. You can start with the = smallest of technology stacks and grow to serve millions of users -- = following a learning curve that doesn't break. Keep your data in sync = and where your users need it to be, on the device of their preference, = online or offline. Share, combine, present, receive and update documents = via master-to-master replication and let web based services monitor = changes for additional processing.=20 >>=20 >> Johs:) >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 9. sep. 2015, at 21.02, Joan Touzet wrote: >>>=20 >>> +1 >>>=20 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jan Lehnardt" >>>> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org >>>> Cc: private@couchdb.apache.org >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:45:40 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Brainstorm: A new CouchDB tag-line? >>>>=20 >>>> I=E2=80=99d like to get this wrapped up and I propose a similar = process to >>>> what we did for the logo: >>>>=20 >>>> 1. Have us (marketing@) come up with a few alternative approaches >>>> (all addressing WHY, HOW, WHAT, split out in a Slogan (WHY), = Mission >>>> Statement (HOW) and Description (WHAT) that we can use all over our >>>> messaging. >>>>=20 >>>> 2. Put the candidates to a vote here on marketing@, the top 5-10 = (if >>>> we get that many) then go to a vote on dev@ >>>>=20 >>>> 3. =46rom the vote result on dev@, the PMC then makes a decision on = the >>>> final set. >>>>=20 >>>> It=E2=80=99d be great if we get this rounded up by ApacheCon EU = (that=E2=80=99s Sept >>>> 28), and because of that, I propose the following schedule: >>>>=20 >>>> marketing@ vote on Sept 15 (next Tuesday), gives us just under a = week >>>> to drum up a few alternatives >>>>=20 >>>> dev@ vote on Sept 18 right after the marketing@ vote closes. There = is >>>> no more discussion at this point, this is an automatic procedure. >>>>=20 >>>> PMC starts deciding from Sept 21, right after the dev@ vote and = we=E2=80=99ll >>>> try to get this wrapped by Sept 25, so we have a few days to spare, >>>> and time to prepare materials for the 28th. >>>>=20 >>>> All aboard? >>>>=20 >>>> Best >>>> Jan >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 29 Aug 2015, at 11:56, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> (repost in the right thread, sorry about that) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks for getting this discussion going again, Joan! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Here is where we discussed this last fall: Thread =E2=80=9CNew = motto?=E2=80=9D: >>>>> http://apache.markmail.org/thread/6k6qtc65vtnse5ls (incomplete >>>>> results, because the MarkMail interface is weird, but should get >>>>> you the main parts) >>>>>=20 >>>>> In there, we follow the search for our WHY, which defines our HOW >>>>> and that in turn defines our WHAT (context >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/346bxv4v3sq7ofoj) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Noah summed up our discussion back then >>>>> (http://markmail.org/message/h2dm233yjuphtufw): >>>>>=20 >>>>>> WHY -- Getting your data where ever you need it (mobile, >>>>>> geolocations, cloud, etc) >>>>>=20 >>>>>> HOW -- Sync protocol (with CouchDB as the reference >>>>>> implementation) >>>>>=20 >>>>>> WHAT -- Erlang, MapReduce, CouchDB Query, REST, JSON, JavaScript, >>>>>> etc., etc. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> The slogan we are looking for now is addressing the WHY and the = WHY >>>>> only. The HOW and the WHAT also deserve treatment though, but >>>>> these need to live elsewhere. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Let=E2=80=99s attempt to organise this a little: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Project name: Apache CouchDB >>>>>=20 >>>>> Nickname: CouchDB >>>>>=20 >>>>> Slogan: Data where you need it. (WHY) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Mission Statement: Apache CouchDB aims to foster an ecosystem of >>>>> software that can flexibly share data with each other by defining >>>>> a universal synchronisation protocol. (HOW) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Description: CouchDB is the focal point of the Couch Sync Protocol >>>>> suite which is implemented by an ecosystem of projects that all >>>>> work in concert to fulfil a universal vision: being able to share >>>>> and access data where it has the most value, from cross >>>>> data-center cluster to mobile phones. CouchDB is an >>>>> Erlang-implementation of the Couch Sync Protocol with a strong >>>>> focus on reliability, durability and scaling. CouchDB uses HTTP >>>>> for its API, JSON for documents, and a developer-friendly query >>>>> language and optionally MapReduce for efficient data retrieval. >>>>> (WHAT) >>>>>=20 >>>>> * * * >>>>>=20 >>>>> Let=E2=80=99s collect variations of this and counter examples, but = let=E2=80=99s >>>>> keep the same form: >>>>> 1. Address the WHY, HOW and WHAT >>>>> 2. Define: Name, Nickname, Slogan, Mission Statement and >>>>> Description (we can rename the labels later, for now it is >>>>> important to get the copy text for the WHY, HOW and WHAT right). >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> * * * >>>>>=20 >>>>> FWIW: PouchDB nicked the =E2=80=9CThe database that syncs=E2=80=9D = from an email of >>>>> mine on dev@ two years ago, when this was discussed first (and >>>>> kudos to them for realising it is a great slogan and running with >>>>> it!). I see no harm in the two projects sharing this, or >>>>> coordinating, e.g. CouchDB: The database that syncs. PouchDB: The >>>>> JavaScript database that syncs, or somesuch. (not saying this is a >>>>> proposal of mine, but if anyone wants to advocate it, I=E2=80=99d = be happy >>>>> to listen and hear a proposal). >>>>>=20 >>>>> * * * >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Jan >>>>> -- >>>>>> On 10 Aug 2015, at 16:06, Joan Touzet wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I don't know where we landed on this discussion last time, but = I'm >>>>>> fairly sure we didn't come to any sort of agreement. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Our current tag-line for CouchDB is pretty unwieldy: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Apache CouchDB is a database that uses JSON for documents, >>>>>> JavaScript for MapReduce indexes, and regular HTTP for its >>>>>> API" >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> With the addition of mango, it's also inaccurate. I'm sure we can >>>>>> do >>>>>> better! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Previously I remember seeing the suggestion: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Apache CouchDB: The database that {replicates|syncs}." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I'm finding that really snappy. If you had to pick a single >>>>>> feature that >>>>>> CouchDB does better than anyone else, it's the multi-master >>>>>> replication. >>>>>> It does leave out a lot of great things we do, though. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Here's the taglines of some of our "competitors": >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "The Apache Cassandra database is the right choice when you need >>>>>> scalability and high availability without compromising >>>>>> performance." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Apache HBase=E2=84=A2 is the Hadoop database, a distributed, = scalable, >>>>>> big >>>>>> data store." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "The Apache=E2=84=A2 Hadoop=C2=AE project develops open-source = software for >>>>>> reliable, >>>>>> scalable, distributed computing." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "CouchBase 3.0: A distributed database engineered for = performance, >>>>>> scalability, and simplified administration." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "MongoDB: Agility, scalability, performance. Pick three." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Redis is an open source, BSD licensed, advanced key-value cache >>>>>> and >>>>>> store." >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "Riak KV is a distributed NoSQL database that is highly = available, >>>>>> scalable and easy to operate" >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> "ElasticSearch: Search & Analyze Data in Real Time" >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> What other ideas do you have for a tagline for CouchDB? The only >>>>>> rules >>>>>> are: one sentence, the shorter the better, and focused on >>>>>> CouchDB's >>>>>> unique strength(s). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -Joan >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Disclaimer: This is brainstorming only. The discussion may or may >>>>>> not >>>>>> lead to a new CouchDB tagline. 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