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From Jason Smith <>
Subject Re: Trolling of Couchappers
Date Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:55:18 GMT
Hi, ermouth!

Cool! Well, then perhaps we can all agree to move the CouchApp conversation
to the dev@ list, to focus specifically on problems/solutions,
features/bugs, milestones/deadlines, etc. of the development work to do.

As I said before, I'd like to get into the specifics, because I struggled a
lot with CouchApp limitations, but I am also very excited about more
powerful JavaScript integration with the CouchDB server. A while back, I
explored some debugging and app server features and made this video:

So...see you all on dev@ then?


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:42 PM, ermouth <> wrote:

> > ermouth - I am waiting for a clarifying response.
> Well, ok. As for local rules I can ask anyone to stop something, that looks
> not very pleasant for me personally. I use to say, that PMCs overall
> behavior on couchapps topic is not very pleasant, and not only for me.
> What I see, is that every time couchapp theme is raised, it finshes with
> ‘we will kill couchapps, unless someone dares to support it’. It‘s all
> understandable, have reasons, and surely is not trolling.
> So what is trolling?
> Trolling is when you declared you intentions – to remove couchapps and
> releated functions – and them start to speculate on topic, hurting people.
> I do not want to crawl posts to find out all version of killing, but again,
> overall picture is:
> * We will remove some yet unknown couchapp functions
> * We will remove all of them (nobody know here what you mean, really)
> * We maybe remove even views
> * We‘ll maybe remove them at 2.0
> * ... or at 2.1
> * ... or at 3.0.
> For me it‘s like you‘ve caught couchappers here and telling them you gonna
> destroy things they (and I, partially) believe in. May be you gonna cut off
> leg. Or arm. Today. Or tomorrow. And couchappers are unable to do anything
> with it.
> Hurting people who can‘t do nothig with it, and doing it every single day,
> for about a week – is trolling. *Special* efforts to hurt – and all these
> unpleasant ‘watch me’ were surely intentional pathos – are clear trolling,
> by definition.
> Thats why I ask you – please, stop it. Couchappers don‘t deserve this kind
> of attitude.
> Best regards,
> ermouth

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