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Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 08:17:32 +0200
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Subject: Re: CouchDB Articles, Pills and Tutorials Ideas
From: Giovanni Lenzi <g.lenzi@smileupps.com>
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@ermouth:

Seems more that you are puNChing it, instead of puShing it  :)

Besides the fact I don't agree, and I am not alone, with many of your
concerns... I think this is exactly the kind of Stackoverflow
CouchDB-killing answers, which negatively affect the project. Why can't we,
at least from the inside of this community, share our positive experiences,
and leave the burden of defeatism to CouchDB competitors? also considered
that CouchDB, as everything else, evolves and old release limitations are
no more actual and actual ones are likely to be outdated in future!

> A lot, and they generally use LAMP
We all come from LAMP or other stacks, but things evolve... otherwise we
would be still at the stone age

> Also tooling and documantation around couchapps are really, really poor
=E2=80=93 you know it
Yes. This was the topic :) : expanding content around CouchDB

> Sure, I have quite large projects, that are built on top of CouchDB
Great, would you like to write down some of your positive:-)) experiences?


2015-05-04 20:19 GMT+02:00 ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com>:

> > and how many freelancers, small and medium companies are there instead?
>
> A lot, and they generally use LAMP. If they are more advanced =E2=80=93 M=
EAN.
> Couchapps are extremely rear =E2=80=93 they need way of thinking and skil=
ls more
> common for large serious projects. MapReduce is not the thing common for
> small sites.
>
> Also tooling and documantation around couchapps are really, really poor =
=E2=80=93
> you know it. And reason for it is not underestimation =E2=80=93 reason is=
 couchapps
> are limited and limiting. Couchapps are too complex for simple projects a=
nd
> too limiting for large systems.
>
> Although there exist some real-life architectures, where couchapps are
> integrated into large systems. For example you can have couchapp-driven
> backend that serves tenths of users =E2=80=93 and full-powered frontend t=
hat
> employs CouchDB replicated from backend, but as DB, not as app platform.
>
> > I assume you like something about CouchDB, right
>
> Sure, I have quite large projects, that are built on top of CouchDB =E2=
=80=93 but
> most of them are under NDA. In fact, combining CouchDB with node.js in
> front you can create distributed, reliable, fast and complex solutions th=
at
> fly with zero issues for years =E2=80=93 but using only couchapps you def=
initely
> can not.
>
>
> ermouth
>
> 2015-05-04 20:44 GMT+03:00 Giovanni Lenzi <g.lenzi@smileupps.com>:
>
> > I agree couchapps couldn't be used for anything, of course but... how
> many
> > large companies does exist? and how many freelancers, small and medium
> > companies are there instead?
> >
> > However, I'm just giving my 2 cents to spread CouchDB here... and trust
> me:
> > there is a lot of interest around Couchapps. Almost all our customers u=
se
> > them in one way or another.
> >
> > Anyway, @ermouth if you are here, I assume you like something about
> > CouchDB, right? If yes, is it something you can share on that list?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2015-05-04 18:44 GMT+02:00 ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > >but I think Couchapps are really a game-changing feature
> > >
> > > They are not, it=E2=80=98s an overcomplicated, hard to debug and brit=
tle
> solution
> > > for small projects.
> > >
> > > Also couchapps generally have very poor perfomance =E2=80=93 because =
json
> > > serialization/deserialization while transmitting data from map to _li=
st
> > and
> > > _show functions is slow.
> > >
> > > > Why using a web, app and db server when you can just use CouchDB?
> > >
> > > Because there exist not only small projects. So we need rater, monito=
r,
> > > counter, cache and so on.
> > >
> > > ermouth
> > >
> > > 2015-05-04 19:10 GMT+03:00 Giovanni Lenzi <g.lenzi@smileupps.com>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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