Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 698A917BFD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2015 05:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78711 invoked by uid 500); 6 Apr 2015 05:36:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 78682 invoked by uid 500); 6 Apr 2015 05:36:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 78665 invoked by uid 99); 6 Apr 2015 05:36:14 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 05:36:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of candeira@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-ob0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2015 05:35:48 +0000 Received: by obbec2 with SMTP id ec2so27759224obb.3 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J8mXZsl1mf4M58ShAL1a9Artdb4xNlOpL+2WiiuJewE=; b=tSE07RG5Nf5NozkQrfK5kk95TgfLSoWIR/OO+Mu+3HSzD44q06vxH8Lpbn2l3vl1M2 MOUKewz+k2L7Dj/ntMDwlOCAMLPJ3obJMauNrxekGcZW4OYLpNAXohQQFo6hXfxioncJ lQNZ2yzm3kYCaAdDcbYJt0ocy3YpZ+9g8mg/2RjrkgsPEdDG1O13zSBzP3IHmnoepop0 stTheT6v1dJ1TVHrhF3pgjnxw8wF2HcYLEtkNRos03R7SLQm4pjFa/ver5faiUsWiaYL 1A+t6+eXBeLbJn2qSj3EWuTNDEHzO6/D2e1ljpp9wrT0gb0bYY8b8IjNJ1yu5B/pX59+ b4DA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.158.130 with SMTP id wu2mr16199275oeb.64.1428298547043; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: javier@candeira.com Sender: candeira@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.57.74 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 07:35:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Tkd71XtYMNe9hRNUY7feMIr7URE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NOTICE] Submissions for the new CouchDB logo are open From: Javier Candeira To: Nick Pavlica Cc: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86df1487a29f051307abf1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b86df1487a29f051307abf1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It happens! J On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Nick Pavlica wrote: > Javier, sorry you're logo didn't come together.-- Nick > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 6:24 PM Javier Candeira > wrote: > >> And I give up on the logo image. >> >> I like the current one a lot. However, I was persuaded that the male >> reclined figure was problematic, both because of gender and of posture. >> Therefore, I tried to erase him and substitute in the silhouette of a >> toddler, which is both genderless and suggests ease of operation. I have >> failed at producing anything good, so I won't submit any of my tries. >> >> See you at the voting, >> >> J >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Javier Candeira >> wrote: >> >> > I too have a logo and tagline proposal. >> > >> > I'd like to submit them separately, because I think the tagline could >> (and >> > indeed should) be changed separately from the logo, so it's possible >> that >> > people might want to use someone's new logo and my new tagline, and >> > vice-versa. >> > >> > I'm submitting the tagline in this message, and the logo in an upcoming >> > message. >> > >> > >> > ## Suggested tagline: >> > >> > "Sync. Shard. Rest." >> > >> > It's short and memorable in the literal sense (easy to remember as-is, >> > without misquoting). >> > >> > It explains the threee main qualities of CouchDB (it syncs, it shards >> > since 2.0, and it is accessed via HTTP verbs). >> > >> > It also has a connection with the previous tagline, "Relax", through the >> > ambiguity of "Rest/REST", and with the "Couch" name. >> > >> > >> > ## Rationale for the change: >> > >> > First, "Relax" can mean anything and be about any product. It refers to >> > the name of the project (Couches are for sitting on, and relaxing on, >> but >> > databases?). >> > >> > Second, For a long time I thought CouchDB was a XML database related to >> > Relax NG: http://relaxng.org/. >> > >> > But, most especially, it doesn't address CouchDB's strenghts. The fact >> > that it's a DataBase is in the project's name. But how is it different >> from >> > other databases? What does "Relax" tell us about CouchDB in particular? >> > >> > >> > ## Rationale for the choice: >> > >> > Let's look at the taglines for some other DBs and Free Software >> projects: >> > >> > - MongoDB: "Agility, scalability, performance. Pick three." Never mind >> > whether it's true, it's a very good sell. It's also very heavily >> influenced >> > from... >> > >> > - Sqlite: "Small. Fast. Reliable. Choose any three." There is a trend >> > emerging here. Three qualities, suggesting no compromise. >> > >> > - PouchDB: "The Database that Syncs!" >> > >> > - Postgresql: "The world's most advanced open source database." >> > Descriptive, literal, boastful but not cute. No attempt at rythm nor >> puns. >> > >> > - Cassandra: None. Just a lot of text. >> > >> > - Django: "The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines." I've >> > always loved this one. Right amount of boast, right amount of cheeky. >> But >> > above all, clear message. >> > >> > - Ruby on Rails: "Web development that doesn't hurt". Not really a >> tagline >> > at the level of the logo, but it's been on their page forever. It also >> > communicates a clear message. >> > >> > Describing what the product does is important, but it's also important >> to >> > say what the project does that other, similar projects don't do, or >> don't >> > don't do as well. Sqlite goes for small, fast, reliable versus Postgres, >> > which goes for "advanced" (ie more features). PouchDB syncs( (with >> > CouchDB), and both Django and RoR are about developers' good feels. The >> > emotional side is explained via light humour, as in the "pick three" >> > reversal on the commonplace "pick two" joke, or the exclamation point at >> > the end of "syncs!" >> > >> > I thought there were three qualities that CouchDB that deservied >> > highlighting: >> > >> > - syncing, which is central to the couchdb story, and could be claimed >> to >> > be "what we do better than anyone else". >> > - sharding, which is central to 2.0, our new thing we want to highlight. >> > - REST and HTTP, which is the uniform API for accessing our databases >> > locally or remotely, and defines the project. >> > >> > There were two ways of combining these qualities in a sentence. >> > >> > One, taking the descriptive route: >> > >> > "The syncing, sharding database that speaks Web". >> > >> > The second, taking the more oblique route: >> > >> > "Sync. Shard. Rest." or "Sync. Shard. REST." >> > >> > The first one is good for a webpage, but not necessarily to accompany a >> > logo everywhere a logo can go. I'm thinking of merchandise and gear, but >> > also of logo buttons on some other projects' pages. >> > >> > The second, shorter one is best for those secondary uses, so that's the >> > one I'm proposing. >> > >> > I propose "Rest" with normal text capitalisation, avoiding all caps, >> > because people who understand what REST it will get it, and people who >> > don't will still get the "resting" bit. It's not worth it to break the >> flow >> > of the sentence in order to emphasise the initialism. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Javier Candeira >> > >> > --047d7b86df1487a29f051307abf1--