Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE85317B9E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 15:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34327 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2015 15:24:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 34289 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2015 15:24:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 34275 invoked by uid 99); 5 Apr 2015 15:24:24 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 15:24:24 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=AC_DIV_BONANZA,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of candeira@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.172] (HELO mail-ob0-f172.google.com) (209.85.214.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 15:23:59 +0000 Received: by obvd1 with SMTP id d1so14143793obv.0 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 08:22:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=16ERkX2jRsP/EMxPytP1SGJHuE0MnlmaYK1F71K9qsw=; b=u7J8js4aYbjrxytd309fq823DBtuhP6C7ZwH9oKhpUR3pJtJYL9yxryeWLP9rBTjnY XQew4X19tJEguGhoOdr79aoTmUa3UTq8bAbovfm+r/G1aOolgrX/PG1KDzRLoCAVpOYf KwGWbyNOMB2N6UN0JWfPxFkPyQXx5EAYAcAqeFTPj/bOeYOIJlkiYJC3dviPKGIRUESB JcYORQBowpa36vw+i4htC02AYrBfY2De6JE9w0M+ZSI/i5LSsGsKmrFl9QZktFr6uUxx Sc3pKMCLWaJbNzim0618B0IstpBO0NM/bd3vapGVX2MJJDgXInJS39MhnH7m/gnUtBWq YIjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.174.19 with SMTP id bo19mr13635322oec.5.1428247347448; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 08:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: javier@candeira.com Sender: candeira@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.57.74 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Apr 2015 08:22:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 17:22:27 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JyMG6qKh2b9YmKSRYX12zqNSpmQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NOTICE] Submissions for the new CouchDB logo are open From: Javier Candeira To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01182362cbd0980512fbbff9 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e01182362cbd0980512fbbff9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I too have a logo and tagline proposal. I'd like to submit them separately, because I think the tagline could (and indeed should) be changed separately from the logo, so it's possible that people might want to use someone's new logo and my new tagline, and vice-versa. I'm submitting the tagline in this message, and the logo in an upcoming message. ## Suggested tagline: "Sync. Shard. Rest." It's short and memorable in the literal sense (easy to remember as-is, without misquoting). It explains the threee main qualities of CouchDB (it syncs, it shards since 2.0, and it is accessed via HTTP verbs). It also has a connection with the previous tagline, "Relax", through the ambiguity of "Rest/REST", and with the "Couch" name. ## Rationale for the change: First, "Relax" can mean anything and be about any product. It refers to the name of the project (Couches are for sitting on, and relaxing on, but databases?). Second, For a long time I thought CouchDB was a XML database related to Relax NG: http://relaxng.org/. But, most especially, it doesn't address CouchDB's strenghts. The fact that it's a DataBase is in the project's name. But how is it different from other databases? What does "Relax" tell us about CouchDB in particular? ## Rationale for the choice: Let's look at the taglines for some other DBs and Free Software projects: - MongoDB: "Agility, scalability, performance. Pick three." Never mind whether it's true, it's a very good sell. It's also very heavily influenced from... - Sqlite: "Small. Fast. Reliable. Choose any three." There is a trend emerging here. Three qualities, suggesting no compromise. - PouchDB: "The Database that Syncs!" - Postgresql: "The world's most advanced open source database." Descriptive, literal, boastful but not cute. No attempt at rythm nor puns. - Cassandra: None. Just a lot of text. - Django: "The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines." I've always loved this one. Right amount of boast, right amount of cheeky. But above all, clear message. - Ruby on Rails: "Web development that doesn't hurt". Not really a tagline at the level of the logo, but it's been on their page forever. It also communicates a clear message. Describing what the product does is important, but it's also important to say what the project does that other, similar projects don't do, or don't don't do as well. Sqlite goes for small, fast, reliable versus Postgres, which goes for "advanced" (ie more features). PouchDB syncs( (with CouchDB), and both Django and RoR are about developers' good feels. The emotional side is explained via light humour, as in the "pick three" reversal on the commonplace "pick two" joke, or the exclamation point at the end of "syncs!" I thought there were three qualities that CouchDB that deservied highlighting: - syncing, which is central to the couchdb story, and could be claimed to be "what we do better than anyone else". - sharding, which is central to 2.0, our new thing we want to highlight. - REST and HTTP, which is the uniform API for accessing our databases locally or remotely, and defines the project. There were two ways of combining these qualities in a sentence. One, taking the descriptive route: "The syncing, sharding database that speaks Web". The second, taking the more oblique route: "Sync. Shard. Rest." or "Sync. Shard. REST." The first one is good for a webpage, but not necessarily to accompany a logo everywhere a logo can go. I'm thinking of merchandise and gear, but also of logo buttons on some other projects' pages. The second, shorter one is best for those secondary uses, so that's the one I'm proposing. I propose "Rest" with normal text capitalisation, avoiding all caps, because people who understand what REST it will get it, and people who don't will still get the "resting" bit. It's not worth it to break the flow of the sentence in order to emphasise the initialism. Regards, Javier Candeira --089e01182362cbd0980512fbbff9--