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From: Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:21:05 +0100
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Subject: Re: Draft of Cloudant paper, CouchDB inclusion?
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Hi Mike,

I like the paper very much. It's a nice overview and will help people a
lot. I also think that there is no need to "choose". It's more the thing
that one want's do find the best fit for the job.

PouchDB is not an ASF project and is not integrated in Apache CouchDB. So
the footer should be changed accordingly. Even though - PouchDB is super
awesome ;-).

Thanks a lot for this

Cheers

Andy

On 29 January 2015 at 22:05, Sebastian Rothbucher <
sebastianrothbucher@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm with Johs: one could point out that one can easily SWITCH between Cou=
ch
> 4 free, a fully commercial-backed Cloudant local and the cloud option as
> such. You can upgrade and you can also downgrade when you want to leave t=
he
> cloud for some reason. Try that with SF.com!
> By the way: this also improves CouchDB's position as there is a
> commercially supported counterpart out - so great on another front also
>
> So thanks for summarizing these things!
>     Sebastian
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Johs Ensby <johs@b2w.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> > Nice paper!  It provides the kind of orientation that is essential to
> both
> > development strategy and deployment planning. The fact that it comes
> from a
> > major commercial player is a much needed reference on top of the usual
> > blog/twitter/youtube/Stackoverflow/Quora scanning to QC the
> > not-always-update online docs.
> > Two comments:
> > I would have expected a few more sentences promoting Cloudant sync (to
> > qualify for mobile use is essential these days)
> > Mentioning Hood.ie might be a good idea when addressing PouchDB, and as
> > there is a compatibility issue there at the moment when it comes to the
> > user database api between CouchDB and Cloudant (see
> > https://github.com/hoodiehq/faq/issues/77). I think the Hoodie
> initiative
> > deserves a mention since it ties together your =E2=80=9Cadditional repl=
ication
> > endponts=E2=80=9D issue with the node.js world and makes the offline vi=
sion a
> > practical reality
> >
> > A final comment as a Cloudant fan (since i met with the team in Boston =
in
> > 2009)
> > You paper title is:
> > Deciding Between Cloudant Managed Service, Cloudant Local, and Apache
> > CouchDB=E2=84=A2
> > .. and one of your best arguments is that you DON=E2=80=99T need to dec=
ide
> between
> > Cloudant and A-CouchDB.
> > Isn=E2=80=99t that a good point emphasize in the conclusion of the pape=
r?
> >
> > johs:)
> >
> >
> > > On 27 Jan 2015, at 17:48, Mike Broberg <mbroberg@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, marketing community-- I'm working on a short paper that outlin=
es
> > the differences between Cloudant's various services, and would like to
> > include Apache CouchDB alongside them as an option.
> > >
> > > A draft of the copy is available for comments at
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-t8xRXnMqHYJi2PcxHzX3By3eoZUkWxzKqQg5=
K3tLbU/edit?usp=3Dsharing
> > <
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-t8xRXnMqHYJi2PcxHzX3By3eoZUkWxzKqQg5=
K3tLbU/edit?usp=3Dsharing
> >
> > I also included a potential layout of the document (attached) so you ca=
n
> > see how the images might look. (Disclaimer: I am not a graphic designer=
.)
> > >
> > > A couple notes:
> > >
> > > I wasn't sure how to handle PouchDB. I lumped it in with the ASF
> > trademarks statement in the draft, but I'm not sure if it applies. So I=
'm
> > copying the ASF trademarks team here on that. Or, maybe this is a
> question
> > for Dale, Nolan, etc.?
> > > Also, I wrote this draft with an eye on the near future, anticipating
> > clustering in Apache CouchDB.
> > >
> > > Ideally, I'd like to consolidate feedback from the community by the e=
nd
> > of this week. Please let me know if you anticipate needing more time.
> Thank
> > you! --Mike
> > > --
> > > Mike Broberg | IBM Cloudant | 200 State Street, Boston, MA 02109 |
> > mbroberg@us.ibm.com | (617) 299-1409 Google Voice
> > > --
> > > (See attached file: whitepaper_managedLocalCouchDB_v4.pdf)
> >
> >
>


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