Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79EF310669 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73276 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2014 14:09:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 73236 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2014 14:09:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 73225 invoked by uid 99); 15 Oct 2014 14:09:15 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:09:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.3.33] (p5795A74E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.149.167.78]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id E8B781A0031 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:09:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Lehnardt Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C91BEDDD-5D56-43FE-89E3-2BC8484B0751"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Message-Id: <3C62FAB7-08B1-45D4-93AA-9722F741D406@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Linking to Professional Services Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:09:01 +0200 References: <47864968-7395-47A5-A36F-CED61CBD2906@apache.org> <71B62039-0F5C-4133-A27E-3EA23F3E53E8@apache.org> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_C91BEDDD-5D56-43FE-89E3-2BC8484B0751 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 15 Oct 2014, at 14:05 , Alexander Shorin wrote: > No, I mean about to save ourselfs from the same history about = splitting CouchDB team and creating new fork product, not exactly from = some new thing with *couch* in name. Ah, got it, sorry for misreading this! I do think we should encourage people forking CouchDB and making their = own product with services and everything, like Cloudera does with Hadoop = and so on. This is a main reason why the ASF exists in the first place. = Cloudant, in a way, does this already, and it is great for everybody, = I=92d like more of that :) That said, we need to be a lot more diligent about this than we have in = the past, because of the example you mention. This is exactly why I am = bringing this up now :) Both of that said, I don=92t think this is a case we need to cover for = now / until someone actually wants to go ahead with this. For now I=92d = be fine with covering support and services. > Sorry, I misread your email idea. >=20 > Was thought about creation own commercial CouchDB support in > additional to community one for those who need more then just a help. >=20 > With linking to existed professional services we should be ensured = that they are reliable and provides well qualified service. Right, how do we do that? :) > Also, we shouldn't discourage regular community-driven support in case = of "official support" commercial ones. Not sure how we'll handle this = right. Definitely, I see this framed in a way that it explicitly speaks to = people who are specifically are looking for, say, commercial support. = This isn=92t to discourage the existing support channels, just add more = offerings to help more people :) Best Jan -- > -- > ,,,^..^,,, >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Alexander Shorin = wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >>> On 15 Oct 2014, at 13:34 , Alexander Shorin = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> couch.io comes back? wouldn't it cause creation yet another = couchbase? >>>> or what should ensure people in that? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Well, we have branding guidelines in the works as well. People won=92t= be able to use *couch* in their offering=92s names. >>=20 >> No, I mean about to save ourselfs from the same history about >> splitting CouchDB team and creating new fork product, not exactly = from >> some new thing with *couch* in name. >>=20 >> -- >> ,,,^..^,,, --Apple-Mail=_C91BEDDD-5D56-43FE-89E3-2BC8484B0751 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUPn/9AAoJENnuAeR4Uq7kbJ8QAJPb5bMWkZmW/udytAGfPuYt 95fnZNTTf+KZ4IzLxnC4vcfuS2ELhe0MGhGlcbXw/WYtGfhXcID9mqeqzkgaInTT wTE5bia6wuxAjHPTvu2OZszoaHQ2TrEZDONHjkkRPYGN8orPwFnMdsvXn6wun2mY 6Zrw2IHqUwJfBdtsHzlb+bM6Jenub0G8vNSsCA0YYf8dOFuu+CAWFMwfBqhhplRa QFeQ3w+PR+/8xU5aXEtoNa0++Q2di6x+bhmouovvxOfouh9oZ2iX53jOO5m2INEE 6JjCiklV37wbG+d+apJ5p5W4kotsIfYtGs5pDevxxX3F7W3AwJcN7ZvrgIkNpa1h p3hcxYIIQh+ppJknGCtcdxFUdcQpp/y8H//q2KSyeyGvmr25xGs2bEtDYMpM5Zf6 dPfZi08MaxGN/6/LKyH6JiRuwDzhud79cGDycRQP130j894hf9KgU8obViUDJlYV 7sP4sNr+cNOOwimFUfkmEA6mischO2vjEfPho59GA3G0m1PoyMeYMsyFgRr94s7C 92zvHW+YsoCwzbKwQ7godQkoHDxym9ahwJ+Cusbxy1J4K4xbrx2lB91G2nYFXXYH 35N8MzLrL9bwfT2VYc7EbRzXGX3GEnFJZMASS4AOVATabLS8EBPCGYY9HSRjdbkt 4GEkEj+czJOMhQhsU+ZU =ONa8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_C91BEDDD-5D56-43FE-89E3-2BC8484B0751--