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Subject: Re: [REQUEST] Promote the CouchDB 1.6.0 release
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:11:16 +0200
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On 13 Jun 2014, at 15:45 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> Perhaps we could improve this by:
>=20
> - Moving the release notes bit early in the release process

Or even make it a requirement for the release process to start. We can =
always amend it, if there need to be updates. That way we can make it =
part of the =93PR Merge=94 requirement where dev@ and marketing@ can =
work together on writing this up.

> On 13 June 2014 15:35, Dirkjan Ochtman <dirkjan@ochtman.nl> wrote:

>> Adding whatever needs adding to the relevant What's New documentation
>> chapter might be even better, and can be done at any time by anyone.

That too, of course, and I think it is important to have a friendlier =
document for the press folks that they can copy from right with the =
release notes. Happy to split it in two with a tl;dr preceding the =
longer explanations which then can also go into the docs What=92s New.

Best
Jan
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>=20
> - Modifying the steps so the note is sent to marketing@ asking for
> people to "marketing-ify" the notes you got from CHANGES
>=20
> That can run in parallel with the binaries being prepared. If it
> happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't. But at least there's a
> clear call to action being made to the marketing team.
>=20
> (Does it make sense to cross-post the request to dev@ here also?)
>=20
> On 13 June 2014 15:35, Dirkjan Ochtman <dirkjan@ochtman.nl> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> =
wrote:
>>> Looping in Dirkjan as our active RM.
>>>=20
>>> Relevant part of our release procedure:
>>>=20
>>> =
http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Release_Procedure#Preparing_the_Release_Not=
es
>>>=20
>>> Template release notes:
>>>=20
>>> =
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dcouchdb-admin.git;a=3Dblob_pla=
in;f=3Dnotes/template.html;hb=3DHEAD
>>>=20
>>> Relevant instruction from the release procedure:
>>>=20
>>> "Go through the CHANGES file and copy each section and summary."
>>>=20
>>> The RM should then send the following template email:
>>>=20
>>> =
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=3Dcouchdb-admin.git;a=3Dblob_pla=
in;f=3Demail/request_notes.txt;hb=3DHEAD
>>>=20
>>> Looks like that wasn't sent for 1.6.0.
>>=20
>> Right. I kind of merged that into the SCHEDULE email, where I said:
>>=20
>>> I will use these release notes:
>>>=20
>>>  http://www.apache.org/dist/couchdb/notes/1.6.0/
>>>=20
>>> (Let me know if you have any suggestions for improvements.)
>>=20
>> Part of the problem with the current release procedure is that it is
>> not factored well enough into interrupts that drive the schedule. =
E.g.
>> the RM has to prepare candidate, then wait for the vote. After the
>> vote, call for binaries and wait for those. In this case, the section
>> of the procedure describing the release notes stuff comes after the
>> section describing how to prepare binaries (which I generally don't =
do
>> as an RM). So it's kind of easy to skip.
>>=20
>> Also, I believe in the past not many people wanted to have much to do
>> with crafting the release notes (most people IIRC wanted to generate
>> them automatically from commit messages). I think the current form is
>> a bit more friendly, so I spend time each release to go over each
>> commit in the release, pick out things that are slightly more
>> relevant/noticeable and describe them in a user-friendly way. I'm not
>> sure what you guys want to add beyond what we have now (or who is
>> going to spend time to add it), but I think a small prompt that the
>> release notes have been prepared should be enough to prompt it.
>>=20
>> Adding whatever needs adding to the relevant What's New documentation
>> chapter might be even better, and can be done at any time by anyone.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Dirkjan
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater


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