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From Jan Lehnardt <>
Subject Re: moving email lists to GitHub Discussions (Was: [DISCUSS] moving email lists to Discourse)
Date Fri, 22 May 2020 18:50:07 GMT
Thanks Joan, I’m looking forward to Infra feedback.


> On 22. May 2020, at 19:31, Joan Touzet <> wrote:
> I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this proposal. (I know a lot of people are marching
towards deadlines right now.) I also don't want to take it to users@, unless there's a reality
of it happening.
> In the interest of moving this forward, I'm going to open an exploratory issue with Infra
to see how much work it'd be to make this happen. Hopefully, we're not the first people to
> We'll still need a vote here, or on users@, before we would actually move activity to
GH Discussions, but it won't be the gating factor for a while yet, I bet.
> FYI, per our project guidelines/bylaws, this would be a non-technical decision, allowing
for lazy consensus and a lazy majority (3 binding +1s, more binding +1s than binding -1s),
with binding votes cast by committers, and no vetos.
> -Joan
> On 2020-05-12 14:41, Joan Touzet wrote:
>> On 2020-05-12 5:46 a.m., Ilya Khlopotov wrote:
>>> I would be +1 as long as it works and we have options to migrate archive elsewhere
if/when we need to.
>>> You are proposing to mirror email traffic which means that mail archive would
have a complete history and spare the project from total vendor lock in.
>> Yup, that'd be a requirement from the ASF's perspective, regardless of technology
we select.
>> -Joan
>>> Best regards,
>>> ILYA
>>> On 2020/05/11 19:04:53, Joan Touzet <> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-03-15 9:36, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, at 14:35, Naomi Slater wrote:
>>>>>> apparently GitHub has discussions now. it's still in beta, but you
>>>>>> specifically request it if you want it if you contact support, I
>>>>>> e.g.,
>>>>>> <>
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>> I'm interested to know what we think about this and how this
>>>>>> might/could fit into our plans for user support, discussion, etc.
>>>> Given that we already have email integration with GitHub, this will
>>>> probably be easier to get through the ASF bureaucracy than something
>>>> brand new.
>>>> I'm willing to take this through Infra if people agree to it. It doesn't
>>>> look like there are any separate "boards" or tags yet, so the proposal
>>>> would likely be that discussions there would get emailed onto user@. The
>>>> hard part will be getting replies to the thread on user@ to go back into
>>>> the discussion on GH; we might be able to get an "asf-bot" to do this
>>>> for us.
>>>> I also looked at Infra's JIRA database, and no one has put in this
>>>> request there yet. So, we'd be the first, with all the difficulties that
>>>> entails.
>>>> Can I get an informal "vote" on this approach and go-ahead? Since it's
>>>> informal, anyone is encouraged to respond.
>>>> -Joan "adopt, adapt, improve" Touzet

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