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From Joan Touzet <>
Subject Re: moving email lists to GitHub Discussions (Was: [DISCUSS] moving email lists to Discourse)
Date Fri, 22 May 2020 18:29:46 GMT
On 2020-05-22 13:31, Joan Touzet wrote:
> I haven't gotten a lot of feedback on this proposal. (I know a lot of 
> people are marching towards deadlines right now.) I also don't want to 
> take it to users@, unless there's a reality of it happening.
> In the interest of moving this forward, I'm going to open an exploratory 
> issue with Infra to see how much work it'd be to make this happen. 
> Hopefully, we're not the first people to ask. has been filed.

> We'll still need a vote here, or on users@, before we would actually 
> move activity to GH Discussions, but it won't be the gating factor for a 
> while yet, I bet.
> FYI, per our project guidelines/bylaws, this would be a non-technical 
> decision, allowing for lazy consensus and a lazy majority (3 binding 
> +1s, more binding +1s than binding -1s), with binding votes cast by 
> committers, and no vetos.
> -Joan
> On 2020-05-12 14:41, Joan Touzet wrote:
>> On 2020-05-12 5:46 a.m., Ilya Khlopotov wrote:
>>> I would be +1 as long as it works and we have options to migrate 
>>> archive elsewhere if/when we need to.
>>> You are proposing to mirror email traffic which means that mail 
>>> archive would have a complete history and spare the project from 
>>> total vendor lock in.
>> Yup, that'd be a requirement from the ASF's perspective, regardless of 
>> technology we select.
>> -Joan
>>> Best regards,
>>> ILYA
>>> On 2020/05/11 19:04:53, Joan Touzet <> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-03-15 9:36, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020, at 14:35, Naomi Slater wrote:
>>>>>> apparently GitHub has discussions now. it's still in beta, but you

>>>>>> can
>>>>>> specifically request it if you want it if you contact support, I

>>>>>> think
>>>>>> e.g.,
>>>>>> <>
>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>> I'm interested to know what we think about this and how this
>>>>>> might/could fit into our plans for user support, discussion, etc.
>>>> Given that we already have email integration with GitHub, this will
>>>> probably be easier to get through the ASF bureaucracy than something
>>>> brand new.
>>>> I'm willing to take this through Infra if people agree to it. It 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> look like there are any separate "boards" or tags yet, so the proposal
>>>> would likely be that discussions there would get emailed onto user@. 
>>>> The
>>>> hard part will be getting replies to the thread on user@ to go back 
>>>> into
>>>> the discussion on GH; we might be able to get an "asf-bot" to do this
>>>> for us.
>>>> I also looked at Infra's JIRA database, and no one has put in this
>>>> request there yet. So, we'd be the first, with all the difficulties 
>>>> that
>>>> entails.
>>>> Can I get an informal "vote" on this approach and go-ahead? Since it's
>>>> informal, anyone is encouraged to respond.
>>>> -Joan "adopt, adapt, improve" Touzet

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