From dev-return-48916-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@couchdb.apache.org Thu Dec 5 22:21:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C7FD180643 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 23:21:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1794 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2019 22:21:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 1782 invoked by uid 99); 5 Dec 2019 22:21:36 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:21:36 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B859D180989 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:21:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.983 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_DMARC_STATUS=0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.972] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y33x9uO8QYNa for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Softfail (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=204.11.51.157; helo=smtp.justsomehost.net; envelope-from=wohali@apache.org; receiver= Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B933E7DDB8 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 22:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C8E58022C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 4JknnnyjSRKc for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B793580245 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.justsomehost.net Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id yAbO1FTXgEps for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (toroon0560w-lp130-01-174-88-79-193.dsl.bell.ca [174.88.79.193]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2066B58022C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: CouchDB 3.0 Update - Dec 3rd To: dev@couchdb.apache.org References: <89667473-2fdb-ca3d-593c-7d825e09b3eb@tigernassau.com> <18BE3096-96F8-41B3-8B1E-8C667EA83D1A@apache.org> <3D9CF2B6-BA87-4A15-ACF4-A0678665449F@apache.org> From: Joan Touzet Organization: Apache Software Foundation Message-ID: <59d513d8-0b59-57f6-099d-f621741f9c06@apache.org> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 17:21:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3D9CF2B6-BA87-4A15-ACF4-A0678665449F@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-12-05 14:09, Adam Kocoloski wrote: > Here=E2=80=99s my view: >=20 > - A release should have convenience binaries available within days > - We don=E2=80=99t need to have all the deep dive blog posts on the new= capabilities ready, but they should follow within weeks > - I don=E2=80=99t think we need to insert code freeze delays more than = the usual window of testing for a release candidate >=20 > My understanding is that one of the benefits of the new Jenkins setup i= s the ability to automate many steps of the binary package generation. I = think we can devote some time to getting that online while we chase down = the last few remaining tickets and see if we can lighten the load for bin= ary package generation. If we can get this done in December - great! I am pessimistic we'll have things ready for binary releases, even automated ones, before the 18th. 9 business days is probably not enough time. I am just trying to be realistic here. If we can, then sure, that'd be "great". But let's not count on it. Based on "A release should have convenience binaries available within days" my vote is still for waiting until January to do the RC. We can code freeze / branch 3.0.x except for fixes, documentation and release notes anytime. -Joan