Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B2C210806 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64510 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 18:10:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 64334 invoked by uid 500); 12 Aug 2013 18:10:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 64325 invoked by uid 99); 12 Aug 2013 18:10:32 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:10:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-we0-f171.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username nslater, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:10:31 +0000 Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q55so5783270wes.16 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zJwSYotA+E1l4qH9Z4OAsRV+m0epq7fXtQd4wldndNk=; b=Ay3PjvHuZmjLTrnFfxH+CpbrSPKdSf1FIG30Xd+ByQZbgY1AIhabzYaMvpsS4JF6w7 l3r8jlRhTdg88V/0oOS8nk6co5N83Fx+deXsBp4zfOEGN+k6ST5h+SYilI2RhQrdGYLi Vvo00Mybu24YcAqsXjgGCpMe68oonzy0gMQISEfARdecIpRKNEVKHwsjDL3wIv/d2UKO mVximmKjnjK/cX/wy23hjVqBlNmTECOqZaW1GLK+e3gFmZ1hdjLduCKQMC/vNU4IewWO vwpbsc8DNfRzytSw2bGR5KPzN5FClXLcdALP31PZwY0BEt08MKBd3Nil27IRtPUwTj8K FClQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkIihFcNdJdi992q92T9tkNnk6OezU/eZ1jsc34q8H+ZXGey4fc0j8ol9qT2VjujH5Xebhe MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.234.100 with SMTP id ud4mr190782wjc.44.1376331029906; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.0.72 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [178.250.115.206] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence From: Noah Slater To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01493b6821a09704e3c40a11 --089e01493b6821a09704e3c40a11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, follow up: 1) Confluence has a CAPTCHA system, so we can drop the "you have to be manually added to a list of approved contributors" rule. (If we get spam, despite having a CAPTCHA, we can add the same sort of rule. But at least we get to try it and see.) 2) Still looking at conversions tools. At this point, I think I'm happy to volunteer to do it by hand. It's gonna be hard to automate this stuff anyway. Our wiki is quite small, and we should be loosing about 60% of it anyway, with Alexander's work on the docs. On 12 August 2013 18:43, Octavian Damiean wrote: > That's a +1 Form me too. > On Aug 12, 2013 2:33 AM, "Noah Slater" wrote: > > > I tested CloudStack's Confluence wiki[1], and it seems perfectly fine to > > me. > > > > I am posting a quick note to Infra to ask them if MoinMoin is likely to > > fixed any time soon. It's been like this for ages. > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Home > > > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:31, Robert Newson wrote: > > > > > I've no love for the current wiki stack, will Confluence be faster? +1 > if > > > so. > > > > > > > > > On 12 August 2013 01:24, Noah Slater wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > We're moving the docs to the source, which is great! > > > > > > > > However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep on the wiki for > > now: > > > > > > > > * Weekly news (not started yet) > > > > * Merge procedure > > > > * Release procedure > > > > * Release preparation > > > > * Test procedure > > > > * Committer election process > > > > * PMC election process > > > > * Community guide > > > > * Roadmap process > > > > * Board reports > > > > * Board report guide > > > > * Code of conduct > > > > * PMC charter > > > > * By-laws > > > > * Marketing guide > > > > * CouchDB vision stuff > > > > > > > > Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested in working > > on. > > > > Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong on the > > homepage, > > > > doesn't belong in the manual. > > > > > > > > I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and I gotta tell > > you: > > > > it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit" on a change > about > > > 20 > > > > seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing this email, > > and > > > > the page is still loading. > > > > > > > > I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the wiki recently, > > but > > > > it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident it's gonna get > > any > > > > better. > > > > > > > > For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence. I'm not > > sure > > > > how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna help out? > > > > > > > > Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that is in Moin, > > that > > > we > > > > don't want there any more, because it's in the docs. (i.e. We just > > > wouldn't > > > > move it over.) > > > > > > > > If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you wont mind the > > > proposed > > > > move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly, it is > > > causing > > > > me a lot of problems. > > > > > > > > (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my plate. Perhaps > > > someone > > > > else would be interested in moving the content over? Eugh.) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Noah Slater > > > > https://twitter.com/nslater > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Noah Slater > > https://twitter.com/nslater > > > -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater --089e01493b6821a09704e3c40a11--