Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC7CDEF99 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37340 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2013 15:45:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 37200 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2013 15:45:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 37121 invoked by uid 99); 3 Feb 2013 15:45:18 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:45:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [89.146.220.134] (HELO posteo.de) (89.146.220.134) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:45:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EAE1A70DB for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:44:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at posteo.de Received: from posteo.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (posteo.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V4T6XaJnwdK8 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:44:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:44:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1359906287.12133.41.camel@devil> Subject: Re: Branch to switch from SpiderMonkey to Node.js From: Klaus Trainer To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 16:44:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <5102B439.10500@lymegreen.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.2-0ubuntu0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:46 +0000, Jason Smith wrote: > > The word "sandbox" is vague. There is no clear definition. (There is a > mundane historical reason for that: the "sandbox" was whatever the C > program did.) Good point. For instance, even if you're executing JavaScript within plain Spidermonkeys, people might still be able to issue denial-of-service attacks against your system. Or side channel attacks. Earlier in this thread, I wrote a response to your email from Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:54:45 +0000, where I put a list of "Seven Degrees of Sandboxing" and try to help finding a good approximation for what the notion of "sandbox" will mean to us. I just realized that it might have been a better fit to put it here. > Prediction: as quickly as we identify sandbox features, somebody can build > a Node.js implementation to reasonable satisfaction. But we'll see. Yeah.