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Subject: Re: Branch to switch from SpiderMonkey to Node.js
From: Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
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On Jan 31, 2013, at 17:22 , Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:

>=20
> On Jan 31, 2013, at 17:20 , Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>>>> On IOS and Android there isn't any stable release of nodejs today =
which
>>> can
>>>> be problematic. It is easier with v8 now but this is another topic.
>>>=20
>>> But we agree that this is out of scope for now?
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> This is a policy we should define imo. Do we want to think to a
>> cross-platform solution today (desktop, mobile & other) and if yes we =
have
>> to make sure it works or will we have different solutions depending =
on the
>> platform. We can also just ignore that part and let it for the future =
with
>> the possibility to switch again. I have no strong opinion on that but =
that
>> something that should be decided imo.
>=20
> I=92d say we make that policy once we have the code. I=92m totally in =
favour.

In addition, that=92s why I like to see your rcouch improvements merged =
soon,
so we don=92t get into these situations where CouchDB decides to do =
something
that breaks future compat with rcouch :)

Jan
--=20


>=20
> Best
> Jan
> --=20
>=20
>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>>=20
>>>>>> Also the point is that nodejs isn't so widely deployed or already
>>>>> insyaled
>>>>>> that some say.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Yes, I get that. But I contest that premise. The only thing that =
matters
>>>>> is whether Node is *available* on these systems.
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Well not really. Some users have specific requirements for =
dependencies.
>>>> For example lot of centos/rhel users can't install anything coming
>>> outside
>>>> legal repos.
>>>=20
>>> Right, that=92s why I am asking for a list of available node =
versions on
>>> these
>>> systems that we want to target with future versions of CouchDB.
>>>=20
>>> +1
>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> A
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> My requirements  for a first try are:
>>>>=20
>>>> - sandboxing: no I/O accepted by default, no global variables, or
>>> functions
>>>> that leak content
>>>=20
>>> Cool, thanks.
>>>=20
>>>> - embed in our source code so we don't rely to external for that. =
and
>>> don't
>>>> ask to the user to check outside
>>>=20
>>> I think this one is debatable, but possible with Node (as opposed to =
SM).
>>> I=92d file this for nice to have someday.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> yes just a short list while yiou were speaking about it. we indeed =
need to
>> have a concensus on that.
>=20