Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 009EADB78 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57174 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 11:47:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 57121 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 11:47:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 57096 invoked by uid 99); 1 Nov 2012 11:47:02 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:47:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of simon@cloudant.com designates 209.85.215.180 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.180] (HELO mail-ea0-f180.google.com) (209.85.215.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 11:46:54 +0000 Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 1so922009eaa.11 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-gm-message-state; bh=w5RUl5sDi6D1fnpSx+EL7P5lI5o2v0n39qJngvB6PCU=; b=PgjTAjipNY9aXq5QjCA3zqFwJjKrCbD6j411uwjzHpfT+i3brGBdSoaUU07RJHlH1v pmDAaDCNDIfbiy5k0nOW2TPjjH9bNZUPBUdYUt+e4yGJMxTbnasyd+HXPhWsQPE+kTBX UqAFhcpgbaV4Hd4u1BtRL/g69L3TM4zymspvUZ00r5/3NOts+fDT5bO5le9p8xl9yQ3L zGPDi8arQM4PJfZazB82D9XAmxCIFNbXIBX7aG/pD0T2kzCV83QfocCHL+KdWuz4zg5E /YOOgJmM+VvUdL5dnSAc1sCAkyaqxhkr9u0M6oKm6E/dph7/llx/NehsQEFAFtrt8V37 Y+2w== Received: by 10.14.203.3 with SMTP id e3mr83329026eeo.35.1351770393065; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.37.164.121] ([217.37.164.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o49sm14045517eep.5.2012.11.01.04.46.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Nov 2012 04:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:46:26 +0000 From: Simon Metson To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Message-ID: <4679D8A1A1BF4B16B584949A73A4FBD7@cloudant.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: Futon.Next Proof of Concept X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmdapMSbmt9Iy2cCUlfvkjXAud6VhxVIyhQoLQGNiR/kaHyQtyKAOCK0brT6QAVdb5z/J6K X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, On Thursday, 1 November 2012 at 11:35, Alexander Shorin wrote: > Because it's additional semi justified dependencies and whole project > goes far away from couchapp concept, imho. I don't think it does. In fact I'd say it emphasises the flexibility of couch apps and how they play nicely with other tools ("hey look, you can use this database with the toolset I'm used to from jquery"). > If Erica will be bundled tool out of CouchDB box, better to dance around him. I'd rather use something that exists today and evaluate erica when it is included with CouchDB and has the necessary feature set in the future. With grunt we can get consistent build environments, with erica we'd either have people installing tools (linters, less compiler, minify-ers etc) manually/ad-hoc, have to rely on something like npm (and if we're doing that, why not use grunt?) or build it ourselves (eurgh!). Cheers Simon