Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA7A374BA for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19313 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2011 11:35:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 19275 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2011 11:35:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 19267 invoked by uid 99); 3 Nov 2011 11:35:30 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:35:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [80.244.253.218] (HELO mail.traeumt.net) (80.244.253.218) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:35:24 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.244] (p5797A81A.dip.t-dialin.net [87.151.168.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.traeumt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E91EE3CA68 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:35:02 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Lehnardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Binary Downloads Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:35:03 +0100 Message-Id: <785FABDB-2EF0-409A-A6C5-E9C8D498241B@apache.org> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Hi all, I think we should start considering providing binary downloads for our = users. The whole topic is a bit of a mess (see below), so I'd propose to start = small. 1. This first iteration are links from couchdb.apache.org that are = clearly marked as "unofficial 3rd party binary downloads" that are not hosted = on ASF infrastructure. 2. Start with popular platforms. 3. Use the build-couchdb* script to create a fully self-contained = directory with CouchDB and all its dependencies in one place that can be rm -rf'd = for uninstalling. * https://github.com/iriscouch/build-couchdb The above circumvents several things that I hope we can resolve later, = but that I don't consider blocking us from getting the above started. A. Official ASF releases. Of course, ideally, we should provide official = ASF binary releases, but I acknowledge that with a small community, we = may have trouble getting votes and testing for all popular platforms together. The nice thing of the proposal above though is, that we can, at any = time promote an unofficial build to an official one by voting on it and = changing it's label on the downloads page. B. There's many target platforms our users work with and we can't = possibly try to service them all at once. We can grow this operation as we get = volunteers to help out with each platform. The nice thing here is that we can help a significant portion of = users with relatively little effort. C. Using existing package managers. There are many advantages to use = official package managers for system installation and they should in fact be = the preferred way to set up a system, but they tend to be a little bit = behind with current releases. I'd be super happy to also work with existing package managers to = improve the situation there, but I consider this to be outside of the scope = of this discussion. What do you think? Cheers Jan --=20