Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 26763 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2010 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2010 20:19:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 10069 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 20:19:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 9860 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 9852 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:19:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [80.244.253.218] (HELO mail.traeumt.net) (80.244.253.218) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:19:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.traeumt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541581B583 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:19:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.g3th.net Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id 6kdi2zgc8XfK for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:19:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.25] (brln-4d0cd1cc.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.209.204]) (authenticated) by mail.traeumt.net (amavisd-milter) (authenticated as web50m1); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:19:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: why erlang? From: Jan Lehnardt In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:19:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4C697B3C.9010000@meetinghouse.net> <4C6981E2.3020803@meetinghouse.net> <3142D1BC-BE06-465E-B163-3B965430BCAC@apache.org> <4C6989B0.70909@meetinghouse.net> <3874F95E-8079-4CFA-96E7-32DA8C0A3C2C@apache.org> <4C6996FD.4010207@meetinghouse.net> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 16 Aug 2010, at 22:11, Noah Slater wrote: >=20 > On 16 Aug 2010, at 20:52, Miles Fidelman wrote: >=20 >> Actually, I'd dispute that. The INTERNET is perhaps the largest = system ever built, the web rides on top of a lot of lower level = infrastructure. There's a lot of other stuff riding on top of the = underlying IP infrastructure - email, VoIP, chat, etc. - which don't = rely on HTTP. (Note: I speak as someone who dates back to almost the = beginning - I spent a good part of my career at BBN, just as we were = transitioning the ARPANET to TCP/IP, and it was serving as the hub of = the then fledgling Internet). >=20 > I was anticipating this response. :) >=20 > My reply would be to state that the Web subsumes the Internet in many = ways. >=20 >> True. Though, it has also lead to (IMHO) abortions such as SOAP - = which Dave Winer initially wrote as a way to use HTTP to tunnel traffic = through firewalls. >=20 > LOL >=20 > I think you mean XML-RPC, but they're both as bad as each other. >=20 > In either case, they are so hilariously against everything the Web = stands for, it's not really applicable! I'd like to add that Miles does have a point, but we have good reasons = to have HTTP for now and in the future. It doesn't mean that applying = specializations where applicable is not an option (double negative :). Cheers Jan --=20