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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:42:09 -0600
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Subject: Re: Transactional _bulk_docs
From: Zachary Zolton <zachary.zolton@gmail.com>
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There's a LOT of noise on this thread =97which I realize I'm only adding
to. Perhaps the interested parties could move some of this to IRC...?

Noise aside, let's remember to step back and appreciate how much
Damien put himself through to start this project!


Big thanks,

Zach


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Damien Katz <damien@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Chris Anderson wrote:
>>
>> [SNIP]
>>
>>>
>>> The CouchDB project came into the Incubator with a lot of momentum and
>>> direction, and I consider part of my role with the project, to help
>>> insulate Damien from the mailing-list chatter, especially when he's
>>> deep in code. I acknowledge that could be a mistake as well, if it
>>> leads to community misapprehension.
>>
>> Seriously?  The PMC chair has handlers to keep him isolated from the
>> community?
>
> Must you be so combative? He's simply saying that other project members
> prefer to spend time interacting with the community while I focus on some
> deep coding issues. They know if they can handle stuff there so I don't h=
ave
> to, I can move faster on the coding.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The whole thing started because I closed a bug with a comment that
>>>> there must be an _upcoming discussion_.
>>>
>>> I sympathize with Antony's predicament. He's been using bulk doc
>>> transactions in a high-pressure environment, and it works for him.
>>> It's understandable that he'd be upset, first hearing about the patch
>>> like this.
>>
>> Had someone proposed the change on the dev list, let him participate in =
a
>> debate about the merits, and the change still happened, there would be
>> nothing to talk about.
>>
>> geir
>>
>
>
> I'll post details of the proposed changes soon. In the meantime, I'm stil=
l
> figuring it all out. I understand you don't like that I work that way. Bu=
t I
> can't work any other way when it comes to deep coding issues. The act of
> coding itself ensures I have a completely solid understanding of all
> aspects. I've thrown away on this project 10s of thousands of lines of co=
des
> that I only understood was wrong once I had begun or finished implementin=
g
> it. It's how I work and generally, it works well.
>
> -Damien
>