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From Reto Bachmann-Gmür <r...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Porting Gloze to Clerezza
Date Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:42:38 GMT
Hi Minto

I think it would be fine to add the bundle to clerezza as I think it
might be useful for others as well. We should find a way to have the
platform modular so that one can easily add "optional" modules like
CRIS, UIMA.

Cheers,
Reto

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Minto van der Sluis <minto@xup.nl> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Let me inform you about my usecase.
>
> We are creating a system for storing annotations. These annotations are
> about errors and ommisions in other systems. Currently I use Clerezza
> and a little layer on top for storing and retrieving these annotations.
> Next on my list is integration with legacy systems using SOAP/XML
> interfaces. This integration is 2-way, pushing triples in and turning
> responses back into triples.
>
> Sure I could write code to extract information from annotation triples
> and populate some xml structure. But to me this approach is too rigid
> and has to be repeated for every legacy system I have to connect to.
> Instead I want to reduce the amount of task specific code as much as
> possible. Looking at what is available right now I could use a rendering
> mechanism to go from triples to xml and xslt to go from xml to triples
> again. However I mostly favour symmetric solutions (same technology used
> in both directions) since they easy the maintenance burden and lower the
> learning curve.
>
> I think I found the right building blocks to achieve a symmetric
> solution. However, it still does require some serious effort by me to
> get it working. These building blocks are Stanbol rules for rdf <--> rdf
> conversions (---1--> ) and Gloze for xml <--> rdf conversions (---1-->
> ). With these I can achieve the following:
>
>     Annotation RDF ---1--> Legacy system RDF ---2--> legacy system xml
>
> and
>
>     Legacy system xml ---2--> Legacy system RDF ---1--> Annotation RDF
>
> Most probably I am going to work in this for the coming weeks, unless my
> manager pulls me back ;-)
>
> Whether or not Gloze would fit to be part of Clerezza I am not sure. But
> that's a decision I leave up to you guys ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Minto
>
> --
> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> Software innovator / renovator
> Xup BV
>
> Op 28-3-2013 17:46, Reto Bachmann-Gmür schreef:
>> Hi Minto,
>>
>> I have to admit that I'm not much into XML. I'm surpised that I don't find
>> any reference to GRDDL in the paper. IIUC GRDDL is just one way why Gloze
>> is bidirectional.
>>
>> Is there a concrete usecase you see for Gloze in Clerezza? Could it
>> possibly be used as an alternative rendering mechanism (mapping RDF to
>> xhtml)?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Reto
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Minto van der Sluis <minto@xup.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the warm welcome :-)
>>>
>>> One of the things I need on my current assignment is mapping RDF to and
>>> from Xml. I did some research and stumbled upon Gloze [1]. The original
>>> author created a nice paper [2]. Also it appeared it got donated to Jena
>>> back in 2006 [3]. Currently I am strongly thinking about porting Gloze
>>> to Clerezza. I already asked the original author for his consent
>>> (waiting for his reply).
>>>
>>> If there is any interest, I am more than happy to donate the results of
>>> porting Gloze.
>>>
>>> However, in our line of work 2006 is an awful long time ago. So if you
>>> know of anything similar / better please let me know. It might save me
>>> an awful lot of work, in which case I owe you a beer  :-)
>>>
>>> [1] https://code.google.com/p/gloze/
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.88.8929&rep=rep1&type=pdf
>>> [3] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jena/Import/Jena-SVN/Gloze/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> misl
>>>
>>> --
>>> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
>>> Software innovator / renovator
>>> Xup BV
>>>
>>> Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
>>>
>>>
>

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