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From Reto Bachmann-Gmür <r...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Test failures on fresh build
Date Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:35:48 GMT
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org> wrote:

> On 19/03/13 13:57, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:
>
>> So for the problem with the tdb tc provider I've made a first commit on
>> issue CLEREZZA-749.
>>
>> It doesn't solve the problem only shows it more clearly.
>>
>> Apparently jena tdb keeps the files open even after Graph.close has been
>> called making it impossible to delete them. I'm not sure how this could be
>> solved or if we should raise an issue again Jena TDB.
>>
>
> (you are using an old version of TDB - even without transactions, updating
> will pick up various important bug fixes)
>

Ok.

>
> A graph is just a stateless view on the database so closing a graph is a
> bit of a no-op (it syncs the files if not transactional).  Just forgetting
> about them is fine, no close required.  Or do a removeAll() to clear them.
>

The problem is that the underlying files are not closed and so they cannot
be deleted under windows. removeAll seems not to be available in the
version we are using.

@Minto is the patch for CLEREZZA-726 ready to be applied or are you working
on an update version?


>
> TDB caches databases - it's expensive to keep opening and closing them (no
> disk caching benefits) and tracking whether its in use in Java isn't very
> helpful.  You can flush the cache but that will not avoid the windows issue.
>

It could close the file when close on the graph is explicitely invoked?
Besides the window issue unix systems aren't happy either if they have to
keep unsued filehandler open.


>
> Outside testing, don't delete a database while running.
>

So in tests there's apossibility I can remove the database files?

>
> You can run in direct mode when database files are deletable (as happens
> when running on a 32 bit JVM).
>

I'm also having the issue when invoking:

TDB.getContext().set(Symbol.create("tdb:fileMode"), "direct");

Cheers,
Reto

>
>         Andy
>
>
>
>> Cheers,
>> Reto
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür <reto@apache.org
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Minto
>>>
>>> I can reproduce the tdb error and I found what's going wrong. I'm working
>>> on a fix.
>>>
>>> I don't have any other failing module (fixed file storage earlier).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Reto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Minto van der Sluis <minto@xup.nl
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  I get the following errors:
>>>>
>>>> _*platform.typerendering.**seedsnipe*_
>>>>
>>>> Failed tests:
>>>>    ifTest(org.apache.clerezza.**platform.typerendering.**
>>>> seedsnipe.GenericTest)
>>>>
>>>> Tests run: 7, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0
>>>>
>>>> _*rdf.jena.tdb.storage*_
>>>>
>>>> Tests in error:
>>>>    dateStorage(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    dateStorage(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddCountAndGetTriples(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddCountAndGetTriples(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveAllTriples(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveAllTriples(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testUseTypedLiterals(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testUseTypedLiterals(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testUseLanguageLiterals(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testUseLanguageLiterals(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveViaIterator(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveViaIterator(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddSingleTriple(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddSingleTriple(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddSameTripleTwice(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAddSameTripleTwice(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveSingleTriple(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveSingleTriple(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveSameTripleTwice(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testRemoveSameTripleTwice(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    testGetSameBNode(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    testGetSameBNode(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfContained(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfContained(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfEmpty(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfEmpty(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfNotContained(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testContainsIfNotContained(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testFilterEmptyGraph(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testFilterEmptyGraph(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testFilterSingleEntry(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testFilterSingleEntry(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>> testFilterByObject(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>> testFilterByObject(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestAddRemove(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestAddRemove(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestFilterRemove(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestFilterRemove(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestIteratorRemove(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestIteratorRemove(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestClear(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestClear(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestWithDelay(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestWithDelay(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**
>>>> storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestAddAllRemoveAll(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> graphEventTestAddAllRemoveAll(**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**
>>>> tdb.storage.TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    testGetSize(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    testGetSize(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> TdbMGraphTest)
>>>>    org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetMGraphTest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testListGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetMGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetTriples(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testDeleteEntity(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraphExtended(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**storage.*
>>>> *SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateGraphExtended(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGraphIsNotMutable(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGraphDeletion(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetTriplesGraph(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetTriplesMGraph(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.**storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateGraphNoDuplicateName**s(org.apache.clerezza.rdf.**
>>>> jena.tdb.storage.**SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraphNoDuplicateNam**es(org.apache.clerezza.rdf.**
>>>> jena.tdb.storage.**SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateGraphWithInitialColl**ection(org.apache.clerezza.**
>>>> rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**)
>>>>
>>>> Tests run: 109, Failures: 0, Errors: 65, Skipped: 0
>>>>
>>>> The test logs contain errors like:
>>>> 1)   <testcase time="0.003"
>>>> classname="org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**TdbMGraphTest"
>>>> name="dateStorage">
>>>>      <error message="An entity with this name already exists:
>>>> &lt;http://text.example.org/&**gt <http://text.example.org/&gt>;"
>>>>
>>>> type="org.apache.clerezza.rdf.**core.access.**
>>>> EntityAlreadyExistsException">**org.apache.clerezza.rdf.core.**access.*
>>>> *EntityAlreadyExistsException:
>>>> An entity with this name already exists: &lt;http://text.example.org/&*
>>>> *gt <http://text.example.org/&gt>;
>>>> 2)   <testcase time="0.005"
>>>> classname="org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**TdbMGraphTest"
>>>> name="dateStorage">
>>>>      <error
>>>> type="java.lang.**NullPointerException">java.**
>>>> lang.NullPointerException
>>>>      at
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**tdb.storage.TdbTcProvider.**
>>>> deleteTcDir(TdbTcProvider.**java:242)
>>>>      at
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**tdb.storage.TdbTcProvider.**
>>>> deleteTripleCollection(**TdbTcProvider.java:233)
>>>> 3)   <testcase time="0.078"
>>>>
>>>> classname="org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**"
>>>> name="testListGraph">
>>>>      <error message="forwarding ..."
>>>> type="java.lang.**RuntimeException">java.lang.**RuntimeException:
>>>> forwarding
>>>> ...
>>>>      at
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**.getInstance(**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**.java:62)
>>>>      at
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.**tdb.storage.**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**.testListGraph(**
>>>> SingleTdbDatasetTcProviderTest**.java:154)
>>>>
>>>> _*rdf.file.storage*_
>>>>
>>>> Tests in error:
>>>>    testGetTriples(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**
>>>> FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>> testDeleteEntity(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**
>>>> FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>    testDataFile(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**
>>>> FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testAutoMGraphCreationFromExis**tingFile(org.apache.clerezza.**
>>>> rdf.file.storage.**FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**
>>>> FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>    testGetMGraph(org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**
>>>> FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraphExtended(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.file.**
>>>> storage.FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testGetTriplesMGraph(org.**apache.clerezza.rdf.file.**
>>>> storage.FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> testCreateMGraphNoDuplicateNam**es(org.apache.clerezza.rdf.**
>>>> file.storage.**FileTcProviderTest)
>>>>    org.apache.clerezza.rdf.file.**storage.FileMGraphTest
>>>>
>>>> Tests run: 19, Failures: 0, Errors: 10, Skipped: 0
>>>>
>>>> The test logs contain errors like:
>>>> 1)   <testcase time="0.031"
>>>> classname="org.apache.**clerezza.rdf.file.storage.**FileMGraphTest"
>>>> name="org.apache.clerezza.rdf.**file.storage.FileMGraphTest">
>>>>      <error message="Illegal character in authority at index 7:
>>>> file://C:\Users\Minto\AppData\**Local\Temp\/test-04.nt"
>>>>
>>>> type="java.lang.**IllegalArgumentException">**java.lang.**
>>>> IllegalArgumentException:
>>>> Illegal character in authority at index 7:
>>>> file://C:\Users\Minto\AppData\**Local\Temp\/test-04.nt
>>>>      at java.net.URI.create(URI.java:**859)
>>>>      at
>>>>
>>>> org.apache.clerezza.rdf.file.**storage.FileMGraphTest.**
>>>> createTempFileFromResource(**FileMGraphTest.java:73)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _*rdf.jena.tdb.storage*_
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 19-3-2013 6:57, Reto Bachmann-Gmür schreef:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür <reto@apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
>>>>>> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Minto van der Sluis <minto@xup.nl>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm, odd!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might this be platform related? I am building on Windows
7 with Java
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Yes. Under Windows you can not delete Files that are still
used. On
>>>>>>> Linux and Mac this is possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I don't think one of or tests does this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just tried a build under windows and it fails in the jena.tdb
>>>>>>
>>>>> module
>>>>
>>>>> with lots of errors like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> com.hp.hpl.jena.tdb.base.**block.BlockException:
>>>>>> BlockMgrMapped.**segmentAllocate: Segment = 0
>>>>>>      at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  com.hp.hpl.jena.tdb.base.**block.BlockMgrMapped.**
>>>> allocSegment(BlockMgrMapped.**java:173)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> is this the same as you're having?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This was probably due to my full disk. Trying again now with space
on
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> disk and with -fae option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>>> Reto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I had similar issues with deleting SolrCores after UnitTests on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>> Rupert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Minto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op 18-3-2013 20:00, Reto Bachmann-Gmür schreef:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür
<
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reto@apache.org>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Minto van der Sluis <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> minto@multimach.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doing a fresh build of the lastest and greatest
from git results
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> test
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  errors for the following projects:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>          scala-scripting
>>>>>>>>>>>          platform.typerendering.**seedsnipe
>>>>>>>>>>>          rdf.jena.tdb.storage (not my modified
version)
>>>>>>>>>>>          rdf.file.storage
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These components do build, it's only testing
that fails.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are these known issues? Is there some kind of
continuous build
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> Clerezza?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Let me answer the easy question first. Yes there
is continuos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> integration,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/**clerezza-trunk-1.6/<https://builds.apache.org/job/clerezza-trunk-1.6/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll have a look if I broke something with my work
on the parent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  It builds here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ------------
>>>>
>>>>>  [INFO] BUILD SUCCESS
>>>>>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ------------
>>>>
>>>>>  [INFO] Total time: 10:20.344s
>>>>>>>>> [INFO] Finished at: Mon Mar 18 19:51:59 CET 2013
>>>>>>>>> [INFO] Final Memory: 217M/925M
>>>>>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ------------
>>>>
>>>>>  reto@mufu-desktop-hp:~/**projects/apache/clerezza$ svn status
>>>>>>>>> reto@mufu-desktop-hp:~/**projects/apache/clerezza$
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The latest failure on Jenkins is due to the missing plugin:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   -DartifactId=maven-ontologies-**plugin -Dversion=0.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem with plugins is that they are not taken into
account by
>>>>>>>>> maven when creating the reactor build order. I've now
deployed the
>>>>>>>>> plugin manually and I hope that the build will
>>>>>>>>> now succeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reto
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
>>>>>>>> Software innovator / renovator
>>>>>>>> Xup BV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> | Rupert Westenthaler             rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>>>>>>> | Bodenlehenstraße 11                             ++43-699-11108907
>>>>>>> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
>>>> Software innovator / renovator
>>>> Xup BV
>>>>
>>>> Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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