Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cayenne-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 28364 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2006 15:46:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2006 15:46:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 62055 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2006 15:47:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-cayenne-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61944 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2006 15:47:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cayenne-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61927 invoked by uid 99); 28 Oct 2006 15:47:03 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:47:03 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.116.97.229] (HELO mail.dudney.net) (66.116.97.229) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:46:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dudney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C853FBABB; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.dudney.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mini.dudney.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06834-06; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-67-190-151-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net [67.190.151.146]) by mail.dudney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7363FBA96; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1F02A1D7-66EB-4B28-B21F-B1030CA42E3E@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org, cayenne-user@incubator.apache.org From: Bill Dudney Subject: wrap up from the software summit Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:46:09 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at dudney.net X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi All, Just wanted to let you all know about last week @ the software summit (www.softwaresummit.com). I presented; http://bill.dudney.net/roller/resources/bill/Cayenne.pdf at the conference. There were about 600 people there and about 60 or 70 made it to one of the talks I did on Cayenne. Generally everyone liked the idea of Cayenne, there was a broad range of experience with R/O mapping, some had done hibernate but many were doing straight JDBC or iBatis. The JDBC'ers were very impressed with Cayenne, and the hibernater's were pumped about the modeler :-) Over all Cayenne was well received and I hope to see at least a little of an uptick in the user list and maybe a new developer or two. A couple of specific observations; 1) JPA support was high on many folks list of stuff that they wanted to see. 2) One of the guys at the show backed up cayenne modeler to his 500+ table oracle db and the modeler pulled in all the metadata flawlessly. He was quite impressed! 3) A lot of people still don't get the R/O thing. I was surprised at the # of folks using iBatis to manage complex object graphs and essentially re-implementing the relationship handling code on top of iBatis. If you have any notes or comments on the preso please feel free to send them to me. I'll be updating the preso and giving it again I'm sure. On that note it is licensed under creative commons so feel free to use it at your local JUG or whatever to spread the word about Cayenne. TTFN, -bd-