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From Dave Finnegan <>
Subject Re: opscentrer is spying
Date Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:47:30 GMT

Just a nit, but is it 'bdp_version' or 'dbp_versions'?

   - 'bdp_version': A list of the different DataStax Enterprise versions in
   the cluster.

Also, is this "report" available from OpsCenter?  Seems like it would be
nice to display a message to the user about what we send, and then provide
a link to see the actual values that we are sending.  Just a thought.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Nick Bailey <> wrote:

> As promised, updated docs detailing the data collected by OpsCenter are
> now live.
> -Nick
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Alain RODRIGUEZ <>wrote:
>> Good, fast and appreciated reaction from Datastax.
>> Also thanks to Radim for the warning.
>> Alain, Opscenter-free user.
>> 2013/6/20 Nick Bailey <>
>>> Thanks everyone. We always appreciate constructive criticism.
>>> Regarding what OpsCenter collects, we completely agree it should be
>>> documented more clearly. You can expect to see an update to the
>>> documentation later today. I will update this thread once that goes live.
>>> Regarding notifying the user when installing, we agree this process
>>> should be more transparent to the user. Adding that information as well as
>>> making it easier to disable will be a high priority for the OpsCenter team.
>>> Obviously that will take more time than documentation, but hopefully that
>>> feature will be out soon as well.
>>> -Nick
>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Peter Lin <> wrote:
>>>> I use Cassandra, but I don't use OpsCenter.
>>>> Seems like it would be in everyone's best interest to clearly define
>>>> what data OpsCenter collects today, what OpsCenter won't collect and a
>>>> promise to users none of the data will be used without first getting a
>>>> customer's approval.
>>>> I can understand the desire to collect general statistics, since it
>>>> helps developers get a sense of how cassandra is used in production. I'm
>>>> guessing these types of security issues can be easily addressed by
>>>> improving EULA, documentation and communication.
>>>> my bias 2 cents as a user.
>>>> peter
>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Radim Kolar <> wrote:
>>>>>  OpsCenter collects anonymous usage data and reports it back to
>>>>>> DataStax. For example, number of nodes, keyspaces, column families,
>>>>>> Stat reporting isn't required to run OpsCenter however. To turn this
>>>>>> feature off, see the docs here (stat_reporter):
>>>>> You never informed user that installing your crap will get him spyed
>>>>> upon. Thats very different from Firefox which asks for permission before
>>>>> sending data back and presents both choices to user.
>>>>>  1. You do not have documented what information and how often you are
>>>>> going to spy
>>>>>  2. how you are processing this information, which is required by EU
>>>>> law.
>>>>>  3. In your crap EULA you demand right to present any user of your
>>>>> spyware to public for PR purposes.
>>>>>  4. You guys tried to add spyware into apache cassandra and got huge
>>>>> negative response on cassandra-dev. You will simply never learn lesson.
>>>>> I dont trust Datastax:
>>>>> 1 .I am responsible for data security because we have sensitive data
>>>>> in database. Because you are spying by default, we can not trust that
>>>>> to our admin mistake your spyware will not be left enabled.
>>>>> 2. We can not trust you that configuring that particual option really
>>>>> turns spying off. There might be bug in code or option can change name
>>>>> 3. We do not like to be spyed by software holding sensitive data
>>>>> 4. Spying is not anonymous - you will get IP address of reporter - you
>>>>> will see what company is using your product and from keyspace/CF names
>>>>> can easily guess for what it is beeing used. If you do not spy keyspace/CF
>>>>> names yet you can do it in future since you have no clear privacy "what
>>>>> spy" policy.
>>>>> I improved cassandra nagios plugin to fit our needs and give red stop
>>>>> sign to sw made by datastax.

Dave Finnegan
Sales Engineer

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