Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6639 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2005 12:56:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Feb 2005 12:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 66336 invoked by uid 500); 1 Feb 2005 12:56:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ws-axis-dev-archive@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 66297 invoked by uid 500); 1 Feb 2005 12:56:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact axis-dev-help@ws.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list axis-dev@ws.apache.org Received: (qmail 66283 invoked by uid 99); 1 Feb 2005 12:56:20 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from eero.baz.org (HELO eero.baz.org) (12.130.29.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 04:56:16 -0800 Received: by eero.baz.org (Postfix, from userid 1017) id DC92C36C48; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from MicroMe (psc.progress.com [192.233.92.200]) by eero (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:56:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <016301c5085d$6d3b22e0$0400a8c0@MicroMe> To: References: <200501310726.j0V7Q48a016017@squid.cmb.ac.lk> Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:56:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 From: Glen Daniels X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.2 (Bold Forbes) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Farhaan! I'll start to read the code in earnest later this week / this weekend, and I think targeting the chat next week for folks to be done with the review would probably be a great idea so that we can use the IRC chat to discuss things in realtime. I agree it hopefully won't take that long, and hopefully everyone can commit to that schedule - Dims, Alek, Sanjiva, etc - you OK with that plan? --Glen P.S. Very frustrating to be offline from 8AM until evening! Like missing an arm. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farhaan Mohideen" To: Cc: "'Srinath Perera'" ; "Glen Daniels" Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > Hi > > I am all for delivering high-quality design/code. I think we were at this > same position at the end of December. Glen, Dims, Sam, Alek, etc we want > you > to check our code and design (the design was of course discussed over the > mailing list + during IRC chats). Please can you give me a date by which > you > will be able to complete this review so that we can then set a date for > the > release based on the review results. Hopefully this shouldn't take longer > than 2 weeks right? In the meantime we will try to get the documentation > also out for your review. > > Regards > Farhaan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Srinath Perera [mailto:hemapani@gmail.com] > Sent: 31 January 2005 11:20 > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 > > Hi Glen; > Nice that all are now back on Axis2 :) > > yes I too think that requests are resonable, I belive we can get them > done in two weeks > > We are working on the documentation/ samples and peformance > evaluation. We will try bit of profiling to make sure things are > inorder. > > Let us all start looking closly at the code for improvements :). Can > we have a code review at the chat? (may be we can have more than one > IRC sessions per week for these two weeks). Can you make to the chat > this week? > > Thanks > Srinath > > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:01:56 -0500, Glen Daniels > wrote: >> Hi folks! >> >> I'm not going to +1 a release on the 11th... yet. >> >> Here's what I think needs to happen at a *minimum* before cutting a > release: >> >> 1) Some documentation needs to be written (I know you guys are working >> on this as we speak :)) and edited/checked over by at least two or three >> folks aside from the author(s). >> >> 2) All the code needs cleanup (such as by an IDE's "format code" >> feature) for consistent style/spacing/etc. >> >> 3) All spelling/capitalization errors in the code must be fixed. >> >> 4) The existing code needs some more review by the team, and in >> particular more review from folks outside of LSF (no offense, guys - >> this isn't meant to make any comment on the code quality, it's just that >> it's always good to make sure multiple viewpoints are represented) - >> Alek, Sam, Mark, etc.... I'm very concerned that, although we know this >> is "only a milestone release of a prototype" that some of the APIs and >> patterns which we haven't necessarily agreed upon as yet are going to >> start to gel and become harder to change. I also suspect we can trim >> some of the stuff that's there for an initial release. >> >> So the net of this is that I'm not comfortable releasing things in their >> current form, but that will hopefully change in the next two weeks. >> Unfortunately, I'm going to be in Raleigh from Mon-Fri at meetings where >> I won't have network access (damn you, IBM!), but I pledge to put some >> time into this in the evenings and next week. >> >> I don't mean to be any kind of a party-pooper here - please understand >> all these comments are in the interest of producing a seriously >> high-quality piece of engineering, both from a design perspective and in >> terms of the actual artifacts we produce as a team. Even for an early >> access "release", I think it's critical that we are all on the same page >> with respect to WHAT we're releasing, WHY we're doing so, and that we >> all feel proud that what's there (even if limited functionally) is >> well-architected, well-coded, and solid. If we don't have all those >> things verified, I don't think it's worth doing a release at all yet. >> >> OK, whaddya think, team? A reasonable set of requests? >> >> Thanks, >> --Glen >> >> >> Farhaan Mohideen wrote: >> > The release should be on the 11th as the 12th is a Saturday. My mistake >> > >> > Regards >> > Farhaan >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Deepal Jayasinghe [mailto:deepal@opensource.lk] >> > Sent: 29 January 2005 00:23 >> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 >> > >> > +1 , for M1 at Feb 12th >> > >> > >> > Deepal >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Srinath Perera" >> > To: >> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:59 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 >> > >> > >> > >> >>+1, for M1 at the Feb 12 >> >> >> >> >> >>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:15:20 +0600, Sanjiva Weerawarana >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>+1 for going ahead with an M1 on Feb. 12th. >> >>> >> >>>Sanjiva. >> >>> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Farhaan Mohideen" >> >>>To: >> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:25 PM >> >>> >> >>>Subject: RE: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>Hi All >> >>>> >> >>>>Before Sri Lanka was affected by the tsunami we were well on course >> > >> > for a >> > >> >>>>milestone release in the first week of January with only the >> > >> > documentation >> > >> >>>>outstanding. I think during that period Alek, Dims and Glen said that >> > >> > they >> > >> >>>>would have a look at the code out under prototype 1. >> >>>> >> >>>>Now the team is back on track with Axis after working on the various >> >>> >> >>>Sahana >> >>> >> >>>>applications. We would like to proceed with the milestone release and >> >>> >> >>>would >> >>> >> >>>>appreciate some feedback from everyone whose been contributing to the >> >>>>project. How does the 12th of Feb sound ? Since our first meeting in >> >>> >> >>>August, >> >>> >> >>>>counting the days it would show that we have spent almost 5 months to >> > >> > get >> > >> >>>>this far. Without holding back further I suggest we push forward and >> > >> > get >> > >> >>>>something out. >> >>>> >> >>>>Srinath you were voted in as the Release Manager, could you send a >> > >> > draft >> > >> >>>of >> >>> >> >>>>the release plan so that all can comment. >> >>>> >> >>>>Farhaan >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>>From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:ajith.ranabahu@gmail.com] >> >>>>Sent: 27 January 2005 10:48 >> >>>>To: Axis developer list >> >>>>Subject: [Axis2] Chat log on 27-01-2005 >> >>>> >> >>>>The topic of todays chat was the upcoming M1. There were some >> >>>>concerns >> >>>>about the site as well. >> >>>> >> >>>>[08:58] *** Apache Axis - SOAP WSDL WSDD >> >>>>[08:59] *** Jaliya joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka_ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[08:59] *** Chinthaka left #apache-axis : >> >>>>[09:02] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:03] Hi all >> >>>>[09:04] Hi All >> >>>>[09:04] Hi all >> >>>>[09:05] *** farhaan joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:05] Hi All >> >>>>[09:07] *** farhaan sets topic for #apache-axis : Apache Axis - >> >>>>Milestone Release >> >>>>[09:08] hi all >> >>>>[09:09] Hey where are all the others >> >>>>[09:09] ? >> >>>>[09:10] is this too early/late to start ? >> >>>>[09:10] tsunami for all others ;) >> >>>>[09:10] It is already 9.10 am here >> >>>>[09:12] *** lilantha joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:14] well shall we start talking about M1 ? >> >>>>[09:14] good idea >> >>>>[09:15] anyway, any plans for the date of release ? >> >>>>[09:16] *** chathura joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:16] I think its some where around 12 or 15 >> >>>>[09:16] next month >> >>>>[09:17] yes we should be okay with 12th Feb >> >>>>[09:17] Let's discuss what is outstanding for the release >> >>>>[09:17] BTW guys what has happend to glen and all ? >> >>>>[09:18] We have completed coding stuff for M1 >> >>>>[09:18] as far as i know before the tsunami we were in very >> >>>>good shape where the functionality was concerned and it was the >> >>>>documentation that was missing >> >>>>[09:18] and only documentation has to be done >> >>>>[09:18] and examples >> >>>>[09:19] I mean samples + docs >> >>>>[09:19] well I myself and Chathura started with samples >> >>>>[09:19] yep >> >>>>[09:19] so can we first get concurrence from all on the >> >>>>features for M1 as a reminder atleast >> >>>>[09:19] and the user's guide >> >>>>[09:19] and I stared archi guide >> >>>>[09:22] myswlf and srinath did some perf tests >> >>>>[09:22] and fixed some bugs as well >> >>>>[09:22] great >> >>>>[09:23] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : Read error: 54 (Connection reset >> > >> > by >> > >> >>>>peer) >> >>>>[09:24] *** Chinthaka__ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:24] hello >> >>>>[09:24] *** Jaliya_ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:24] helllooooooooooooo >> >>>>[09:25] yeah >> >>>>[09:25] oki, i was disconnected >> >>>>[09:25] Ajith: do we have some DOM wrapper stuff already? >> >>>>[09:25] nop >> >>>>[09:25] nope >> >>>>[09:25] I don't think its required now >> >>>>[09:25] not yet >> >>>>[09:26] ok. just curious. >> >>>>[09:26] I started that sometime back >> >>>>[09:26] but stopped for the time being >> >>>>[09:26] dims : god thing that you are here >> >>>>[09:26] :) >> >>>>[09:26] may not be here for long :( >> >>>>[09:27] i got the omdiagrams from ashu... >> >>>>[09:27] ok >> >>>>[09:27] I saw the mails >> >>>>[09:27] *** chathurah joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:28] well Dims, I want them to put in some OM docs >> >>>>[09:28] hang on >> >>>>[09:28] *** Deepal joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka___ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:29] *** Chinthaka joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:30] helllo we have some connection problems here >> >>>>[09:30] *** Jaliya__ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:30] ADSL ? >> >>>>[09:31] yeah >> >>>>[09:32] well, can all of you please review the site >> >>>>[09:32] *** Chinthaka_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 60 (Operation >> > >> > timed >> > >> >>>out) >> >>> >> >>>>[09:32] *** Jaliya quit FreeNode : Operation timed out >> >>>>[09:32] and lets put the documents also there >> >>>>[09:32] so that we have a site by the time we release >> >>>>M1 >> >>>>[09:33] *** chathura_ joined #apache-axis >> >>>>[09:33] hey you guys having difficulty with the connection ? >> >>>>[09:33] may be the software >> >>>>[09:33] not the conection i suppose >> >>>>[09:36] inorder to have the site up and running shouldn't >> >>>>the >> >>>>project be allocated some space on the server ? >> >>>>[09:36] yes, I think >> >>>>[09:37] well, Dims what do u think abt this ? >> >>>>[09:37] I think we are getting the space from the CVS >> >>>>[09:37] I mean under ws-site >> >>>>[09:39] the site is being currently hosted in my poor >> >>>>apache account :( >> >>>>[09:40] http://ws.apache.org/~dims/axis2/ >> >>>>[09:41] thankx dims >> >>>>[09:41] Let's keep the site off-line till we release m1. we can >> >>>>announce the site url with the m1 announcement. >> >>>>[09:41] is that a permanent location for the axis2 site ? >> >>>>[09:41] it's the same apache server instance service both :) >> >>>>[09:42] farhaan, it has the om images I requested >> >>>>[09:42] farhaan: no these are the images >> >>>>[09:42] Chinthaka: can you please make a copy before i lose it >> > >> > again >> > >> >>>>:) >> >>>>[09:42] *** chathura quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to >> > >> > host) >> > >> >>>>[09:43] already done :) >> >>>>[09:44] so dims, then lets keep the axis 2 site, where >> >>>>it is now and host it when we release M1 >> >>>>[09:45] so shall we try to make those docs available by >> >>>>next week ? >> >>>>[09:45] and till then others can review >> >>>>[09:45] DIms, what are the docs we require ? >> >>>>[09:46] we are preparing archi guide and user's guide >> >>>>which includes installation guide and samples >> >>>>[09:47] *** Chinthaka__ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to >> >>> >> >>>host) >> >>> >> >>>>[09:48] *** Jaliya_ quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to >> > >> > host) >> > >> >>>>[09:48] dims:so i guess you would allocate some space for >> >>>>the >> >>>>site atleast before the 10th , if we are to make the release on the >> >>>>12th >> >>>>[09:48] Chintaka: sounds good. >> >>>>[09:48] farhaan: consider it already allocated :) >> >>>>[09:48] *** chathurah quit FreeNode : Read error: 113 (No route to >> > >> > host) >> > >> >>>>[09:49] dims: okay :) we are well on course then >> >>>>[09:49] by the way >> >>>>[09:50] do you foresee any problems with a M1 release on the >> >>> >> >>>12th, >> >>> >> >>>>[09:52] am yet to review code etc... >> >>>>[09:52] need a few days (maybe weekend) >> >>>>[09:52] do we know who's our competition? >> >>>>[09:54] sistinet? >> >>>>[09:54] ActiveSOAP >> >>>>[09:54] sorry, systinet? >> >>>>[09:54] and Sanjiva was referring to some more >> >>>>[09:55] *** Deepal quit FreeNode : "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, >> >>>>Easier. http://miranda-im.org" >> >>>>[10:01] sanjiva was very particular on getting people like >> >>>>loghan (i think that was the name) who is implementing his own engine >> >>>>interested in this and hence the need to produce something fast >> >>>>[10:02] *** Chinthaka___ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" >> >>>>[10:03] seems like time is up >> >>>>[10:03] can some one please post the log >> >>>>[10:04] as I don't have the whole thing >> >>>>[10:04] Bye All >> >>>>[10:04] *** Jaliya__ quit FreeNode : "Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla >> >>>>rv:1.7.5/20041107]" >> >>>>[10:06] I know this was not too productive, but let's >> >>>>discuss >> >>>>the M1 stuff in detail over the mailing list, bye now >> >>>>[10:06] *** farhaan left #apache-axis : >> >>>>[10:08] can somone post the chat(ppl at sliit havent got >> >>>>the complete chat) >> >>>>[10:10] *** lilantha left #apache-axis : >> >>>>[10:11] *** chathura_ left #apache-axis : >> >>>> >> >>>>-- >> >>>>Ajith Ranabahu >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >