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[52.32.226.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v2sm5850764pfi.93.2016.01.13.20.48.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:48:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 04:48:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Gianugo Rabellino To: general@attic.apache.org, Message-ID: <6560A58B4F1B8986.D9F18A51-EED5-4D58-924B-AA30FA289410@mail.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: Pondering: Informing announce@ of retirement earlier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2296_564963460.1452746905175" X-Mailer: Outlook for iOS and Android ------=_Part_2296_564963460.1452746905175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With the principle of least surprise in mind, I would be OK with sending th= e announcement much earlier as long as at least the website has been update= d and a note has been added to the repository.=C2=A0 We probably don't want users to read an announcement about retirement and n= ot find the information in the project website. The remaining parts of the = process shouldn't block the announcement. Sent from Outlook Mobile _____________________________ From: Henri Yandell Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Pondering: Informing announce@ of retirement earlier To: Rather than waiting until all retirement tasks are done and then removing a project; I'm wondering if we should do that much earlier so it's always relevant (i.e. not long after the board update committers@ with minutes). Otherwise cleaning something or other up with a project gets delayed and the announcement is very late. Any thoughts? =20 ------=_Part_2296_564963460.1452746905175--