From user-return-11307-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@zookeeper.apache.org Fri Mar 9 08:49:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 30E7A18064A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 64972 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2018 07:49:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@zookeeper.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@zookeeper.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@zookeeper.apache.org Received: (qmail 64941 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2018 07:49:13 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 07:49:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 5622CC61CD for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 07:49:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.879 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=cloudera.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dVPTS4L0NW2j for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 07:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f68.google.com (mail-oi0-f68.google.com [209.85.218.68]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 5B8585F5B0 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 07:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f68.google.com with SMTP id c18so6342501oiy.9 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:49:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudera.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=b8o01IgFIWQXQGzFAgstisHOqsGiwuLeSUuyaz8dHoo=; b=VfFzkcTkaJb8FC6Cxg9F99YkJ7cKD03Qge72mqtEsgYGBglQiYcXuDIVSKU0CaTSeM SJAKfEiwQav2Qe+MsUVkQO3jmg27GKHmYenJOXXxJjmfXYHr8expXRVDTOu2F0Rpqia7 5gBx8/p+AMnxgUWK1SWwDuVqOlrsl2jp3sO4DeuWqo08SN/owT2LwDM2lPkTVthPpVey ci+f+hnXWM6PLiRKBgZ3VwLNGF/v4GUeGzrG0xgQZ7Cy7QYrdgB2nBr96l3H0t5hLJGR sy5qsbN2feGdbgc199dVQlPnEV+dVc1wSmL3DVqJ5eV3oOyN19DyDww1YMlHI/vF8wYE BH0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=b8o01IgFIWQXQGzFAgstisHOqsGiwuLeSUuyaz8dHoo=; b=lapibmTyk5jTvhDY73ZArUYZT5bV0ft84y5Aqxen0VyFn0p5AgzBQAPKrb+REaNAZP OSz4JX7l62jwq32zcHMSpSxWto+SHzjNMgUSaR2cn7WuPzOh00wY48QG1+SzwoiCHI/k 7BSgM+FnZt1nqtSL8tsj9DiS6kJFN6cT1/rGJzW3BN/aZQvFhewWmndiCZnwbm9QA2RE 14THm1wQowkmzMEF9XVzq7bm/dpoTnt2R+3FGG3KPQAkwGXFF2q4DqRG7CulcaVnxvkB d6qrtVVSx4A9Zwu2MvIkW3LN5XkhwsDGFmDeMuK2Y2aYWF8CALiMm+OXNuvi58ilhn69 tWCw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPA5VVKz8Tkw0K7Bq503gJaz69rc4HSrurYW0NRWskLdzVuNa8U5 SBsaOtlSL5FUQjvgGmtPMI9rEWcviXUQ/pHExetv3Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELsTQnmce0BzmT72dWh6z2YRoav4QCpExMLO2DMXvyTUXWn+nsrZR+6dWuajRqErYlAwbNGjVSM9AfTpeOOZhA0= X-Received: by 10.202.89.66 with SMTP id n63mr17098813oib.10.1520581749947; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:49:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.87.1 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Mar 2018 23:49:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <96479547-6b0f-34e0-8531-aa03e01f6209@elyograg.org> References: <53c1ca0c-8ae3-a0af-9ef3-4b9426b1c34e@elyograg.org> <96479547-6b0f-34e0-8531-aa03e01f6209@elyograg.org> From: Andor Molnar Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:49:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Upgrade required Java version to 1.8 on 3.5+ To: user@zookeeper.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d597c0eedf80566f607b1" --001a113d597c0eedf80566f607b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Shawn, Thanks for the feedback and thanks for everybody else too. The short term plan is to introduce Java 8 in next upcoming stable release, 3.5. Jumping 2 Java versions seems to be too much for me too. ZK master branch is going to be 3.6 release in which we can talk about upgrading to Java 9. What becomes later - I don't know - currently there's no plan for a 4.0 release as far as I'm concerned. Regards, Andor On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Shawn Heisey wrote: > On 3/7/2018 1:21 PM, Jeff Widman wrote: > > +1 from me to using Java 8 or even going all the way to 9 for the 3.5 > > release branch. > > I don't think it would be a good idea to require Java 9 at this time. > It's probably already an uphill battle for sysadmins to get approval to > jump ONE major version. Getting approval to upgrade through TWO major > versions might prove to be very difficult for some. > > A year from now, after Java 8 goes end of support, might be the time to > have that discussion. > > I have no idea what kind of overall roadmap there is for ZK major > versions. Maybe nobody has planned that far ahead. > > Ordinarily I would say that requiring a new major Java version should > happen in a major release, which would mean requiring Java 8 with the > 4.0 release and Java 9 with the 5.0 release. But I know that ZK has a > very slow release cycle -- multiple months between *point* releases, and > far longer between minor releases. I don't even know what kind of cycle > there is for major releases. Maybe because of the slow release cycle, > waiting for 4.0 would just take too long. So here's an alternate idea: > require Java 8 in 3.6.x and Java 9 in whatever minor or major release > comes after 3.6. > > For comparison purposes -- Lucene/Solr usually puts out a new minor > release every few weeks. Point releases usually are VERY quick after a > minor release, and typically are only created for really massive bugs. > > Thanks, > Shawn > > --001a113d597c0eedf80566f607b1--