Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF873200BF3 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 19:07:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id BE36B160B33; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 18:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 11EB7160B26 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 19:07:47 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 76045 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2017 18:07:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@zookeeper.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@zookeeper.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@zookeeper.apache.org Received: (qmail 76028 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jan 2017 18:07:45 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Jan 2017 18:07:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 004E1C03A0 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 18:07:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.999, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=elyograg.org Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZY-ExZrf0tEQ for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from frodo.elyograg.org (frodo.elyograg.org [166.70.79.219]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTP id C5B515FCD0 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 18:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frodo.elyograg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6952F1CE8 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:07:39 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=elyograg.org; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:subject:subject:received:received; s=mail; t= 1483639658; bh=GABotMMp0S0/C/sMCNVwnt/yGMzGxIiyf3WL/iS/C9g=; b=K KD0TmowO9UIwFLI9o+j1iVRFoOp2d38zq2Vr21B09k+NxHzCbj1Oo4mjKsMIoa22 x7IPnTiouzdtshNqjI6d5fWdm99TeGoYdwX0F/LdY1NUnCMWCcuW8EPvnjcnK7EY zVKM2MWxJWis6vBhvgyycneDYj2+cwT+LrjfrMBmF4= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frodo.elyograg.org Received: from frodo.elyograg.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (frodo.elyograg.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id HWHxAVnK8NCy for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:07:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.2.0.108] (client175.mainstreamdata.com [209.63.42.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elyograg@elyograg.org) by frodo.elyograg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 773A11CE4 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:07:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Zookeeper Ensemble Automation To: user@zookeeper.apache.org References: From: Shawn Heisey Message-ID: <4494a285-fd2a-0e1c-56ae-2486c5092017@elyograg.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 11:07:37 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit archived-at: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 18:07:48 -0000 On 1/5/2017 10:28 AM, Washko, Daniel wrote: > Good day, I am soliciting advice for how to automate setting up and > maintaining a Zookeeper ensemble. In our environment we try to > automate everything. We are currently operating out of AWS using > Scalr. Our goal for Zookeeper would be to automate the creation of a > Zookeeper ensemble where nodes would join together as they are > created. For ongoing maintenance, the ability to dynamically add and > remove nodes is required. We have used Exhibitor for doing this the > past two years but there is a major problem that we have experienced. > Every so often the Zookeeper ensemble will lose all the configurations > stored. We are using Zookeeper with Solr and this causes the cloud to > fail and collections to be lost. On our Zookeeper Solr implementations > that are not using Exhibitor we have never had this problem Given that > Exhibitor’s future remains in flux and along with the problems we have > had we are trying to find a solution that does not use Exhibitor. > > The Dynamic Reconfiguration in the 3.5.x series seems like a good > option, but 3.5.x has been in Alpha state since 2014 and I don’t see > any indication when It will jump to beta or even stable. We are leery > about running alpha software in production. As I understand it, the dynamic cluster membership in 3.5.x requires 3.5.x *clients*. The client in the newest version of Solr is 3.4.6. I'm a beginner with zookeeper, but I am very active in the Solr community. Once ZK 3.5.x gets out of beta (still in alpha), a later version of Solr will be upgraded to the stable 3.5.x version of zookeeper, and then Solr should support dynamic cluster membership. Thanks, Shawn