From dev-return-133-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@zipkin.apache.org Sun Oct 28 19:49:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 9825C180671 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:49:20 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 65951 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2018 18:49:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@zipkin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@zipkin.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@zipkin.apache.org Received: (qmail 65940 invoked by uid 99); 28 Oct 2018 18:49:19 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:49:19 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f42.google.com (mail-ed1-f42.google.com [209.85.208.42]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 8A061A75 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f42.google.com with SMTP id e5-v6so5410578eds.6 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLZcMEPNPGaMjKmPj+Gv/RTLi9YBV70IAyDwKvT382qcqhsefSH QdwKfGDkvy8b3XC/4gSmBKjPk33p1at3yVg4ZeI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dz41pRWU6cW8aNYvE5gWqynvlkw/Pucr/izKnguZ9KXEAnBMCP73vz/cxa1lEr6+cN3Gy8dAFqdOlc+dTXrmA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3e5a:: with SMTP id t26-v6mr8479508eji.91.1540752557482; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:49:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1540155432.1113492.1549633104.1E8E17BD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1540271071.4180987.1551265864.55CD6864@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1540271071.4180987.1551265864.55CD6864@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?Wm9sdMOhbiBOYWd5?= Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:49:06 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zipkin site under ASF To: dev@zipkin.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" According to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Jenkins one of the first steps towards a Jenkins setup is getting write access to Jenkins: "To give a committer access to Jenkins, the committer must be made a member of the hudson-jobadmin group. This is done using the Whimsy Tool which all PMC Chairs can change." Mick, would you mind adding Adrian and myself to that group? (I hereby pledge to only ever mess up our own jobs). In the meanwhile, I'll get started on researching if other pods do similar builds, and/or setting up a Docker-based reproducible automated site generator. > If you wanted to push it I would think that Zipkin satisfies the following criteria to use CNAME: It's good to know that this option might be open; seems like it'd take some research to pin all that down. For now I think I'd put this on the back-burner, focus on getting the repos migrated finally (thanks for the weighty nag, Adrian), and site generation on the website front, and also the release process. Sounds reasonable? On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 6:04 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > > Just moving the jekyll building (and commit to branch) to be done by the ASF Jenkins is enough to provide automatic website updates. > > > > However, let me stress that this is not about "just" moving current > > tooling, because current tooling does not exist. The HTML was > > previously transparently generated by GitHub, and we don't get access > > to that generated code. > > My bad. Thanks for elaborating. > > > > I've asked about this with detailed scenarios in > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16996?focusedCommentId=16625197&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16625197, > > and was shut down quite fully, with the message "The Foundation > > doesn't support serving pages from non-apache.org domains except in > > very limited and pre-approved cases.". This to me means that while > > probably redirects are fine, CNAMEs are not, but we can of course ask > > for clarification on this. > > > Reading https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#nonapache > > If you wanted to push it I would think that Zipkin satisfies the following criteria to use CNAME: > > -- The domain was very well-known by the user and contributor communities long before the project came to the ASF. > -- The domain is only used to provide end user level information. > -- The domain is Apache branded in appearance just like a.o sites are, and offers clear and prominent links directly to project.a.o/path for all likely contributor topics, like downloads, API docs, mailing lists, etc. etc. > > I'm not entirely sure how you would ensure the second point: that developer/community docs always redirect to *.apache.org though. > > regards, > Mick > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@zipkin.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@zipkin.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@zipkin.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@zipkin.apache.org