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From Adrian Cole <adrian.f.c...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Zipkin site under ASF
Date Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:05:27 GMT
thanks for the start, Zoltan.

more thoughts later but on the domain, I think permanent redirect (or
forwarding if some paths like api should be done that way).

We have to watch out though with the death to zipkin.io as some docs refer
to links. ex jclouds.org sill is alive redirecting to the apache site

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018, 07:21 Zoltán Nagy, <abesto@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> It's your friendly neighborhood webadmin!
>
> http://zipkin.incubator.apache.org/ is up, and fed from a special
> branch in a git repository (currently with manually uploaded content).
> Next steps involve waiting for repos to be moved to Apache, and
> automating the build process of the site (essentially `jekyll build`
> and `git commit` and `git push`, but with much Ruby environment
> setup).
>
> This is a good point to consider the future of the site. One note: as
> documented in https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#nonapache,
> all existing projects must host all content managed by the PMC on the
> ProjectName.apache.org domain. My reading of that, and the rest of
> that page, says we most likely need to say goodbye to zipkin.io, with
> the possibility of keeping it alive if it's given special
> consideration, and the domain registration is transferred to the ASF.
>
> Re. content, methinks it'd be good practice to include release
> information on the site (links to versions, changelogs, that kind of
> stuff).
>
> Re. technology, we have two choices.
>
> One: keep the current site, build and maintain automation to generate
> the HTML from the MD. This was previously done for us by GitHub Pages.
> I estimate maintenance overhead of keeping up with Jekyll releases and
> other ecosystem changes at around an hour or two every six months (ie.
> not very painful, but non-zero).
>
> Two: migrate to a solution more widely used inside ASF, for example
> whatever builds https://tiles.apache.org/index.html. In terms of
> effort, I expect the up-front effort won't be offset by saved
> maintenance over reasonable time-frames, but this might still be worth
> considering because (1) unified design with other ASF projects (2) the
> design has room for much better structuring of content with submenus
> (3) Maven is better understood in Zipkin than Ruby / Jekyll.
>
> I don't have a significant preference for either. I guess in absence
> of strong opinions from you, status quo wins.
>
> (Note also, there's a thing called the ASF CMS, which seems to
> completely remove the maintenance burden, but according to
> https://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html it's "currently NOT accepting new
> projects for the CMS system").
>
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