Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xmlgraphics-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 99973 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2010 18:54:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2010 18:54:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 60815 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2010 18:54:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Received: (qmail 60806 invoked by uid 99); 20 Oct 2010 18:54:03 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of vhennebert@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.182] (HELO mail-wy0-f182.google.com) (74.125.82.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:53:55 +0000 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38so4137014wyb.27 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:53:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Gzvswj6dpgl60Nhe0gymMy6UlKnl4zfnGuENsN7Hqo=; b=PoV67iYvlEsWfN/37cCIlRBAz5e/TndirJX1dthpusnmNbIutkN++xEs3CZ84p5bOk lJ8d4jrF4VmDJNuDNF5RTnJ/NHubFpvCGiMxn+x0lHdc+3uKObUgNxmOq7Vs3Y1NitcN 5quxGyX/7IMExOHKvlk9C5QYrPwIo/dsPbAYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xCsMc64TeJQNRV4eLlItYS/SBMzU008dB69d2/BO/RlvD9GrU4IC9U3Ug+gyoQOiD4 hfqRLD8vEtkZfRpySIwfQka+TvfhOtc9aXzNvHE5hcKzYRKArjR3+TgKBMFbiyBxy9rN OyrVfT7J9jHa8BHMjrCqNq6nabgiDsfJcIMQI= Received: by 10.227.128.14 with SMTP id i14mr8167943wbs.109.1287600813198; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.3.73] (uk.thunderhead.com [193.195.216.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f14sm461778wbe.20.2010.10.20.11.53.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4CBF3AA8.6090604@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:53:28 +0100 From: Vincent Hennebert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Switching to Java 1.5 X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, The topic has already been mentioned several times in the past, at least in the FOP area. The latest discussion we had was in August 2009: http://markmail.org/message/y7iwptehnzujcuxm It was decided then to release FOP 1.0 with Java 1.4 support, and do a user community poll shortly afterwards. More than a year has passed now and I’d like to re-visit that topic, with two modifications: • make the decision at the project level. Homogenizing things a bit wouldn’t hurt IMO. Specifically, Commons and FOP Trunk would switch to 1.5 now, Batik would switch after the 1.8 release (which is about to happen IIUC). • I’m not sure that a poll still is necessary. It’s been almost 2 years now that Java 1.4 has reached end of life. We are in the same situation as when we dropped support for Java 1.3. Moreover, I think sticking to 1.4 is a growing impediment to the development of the project. Simon ran into trouble when releasing 1.0: http://markmail.org/message/ivlwk2dcmuk25woy Proper internationalization can only be achieved starting from 1.5: http://markmail.org/message/6n2w5tefarqp76iv We recently upgraded Checkstyle to version 5.1 in FOP and that requires Java 1.5. Using retroweaving tools is doable but adds complexity to the build and is a hassle that I don’t think we can live with due to our limited resources. I think it’s time to move on. If anybody really feels that a user poll still is necessary, please speak up now. Otherwise, just wait a few days that I launch an official vote on this. Thanks, Vincent --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org