Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xmlgraphics-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 66246 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2005 21:13:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Aug 2005 21:13:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6806 invoked by uid 500); 10 Aug 2005 21:12:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Received: (qmail 6652 invoked by uid 99); 10 Aug 2005 21:12:43 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:12:43 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [81.221.252.201] (HELO smtp.messaging.ch) (81.221.252.201) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:00 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([81.221.65.89]) by smtp.messaging.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:12 +0200 From: Jeremias Maerki To: general@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: XML Graphics Commons: last call In-Reply-To: <42FA6BE5.2030404@yahoo.de> References: <20050808231050.2FA3.DEV.JEREMIAS@greenmail.ch> <42FA6BE5.2030404@yahoo.de> Message-Id: <20050810230651.5445.DEV.JEREMIAS@greenmail.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.12.01 [en] X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0532-2, 08/10/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2005 21:12:33.0481 (UTC) FILETIME=[39A5DB90:01C59DF0] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 10.08.2005 23:04:37 J.Pietschmann wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > BTW, what's a "tool"? > > Anything which is not generally used by the average end user. > I'd like to add "reusable" to the definition, but this might be > too restricting. > Ant tasks and other plugin-type stuff should qualify in addition > to standalone apps. Would you mind adding that directly to the Wiki? > > Everybody always complains about that little library. What's the problem? > > Bad name. Unpleasant associations. Flamewars. Uncontrolled playground. > Small but extremely annoying design bugs. Endless debug sessions due to > misleading error messages. Microsoft Avalon. I can check in the excalibur-framework variant, if you like? :-) http://www.apache.org/dist/excalibur/excalibur-framework/binaries/ Do you have an alternative to Avalon, oops, Excalibur Framework? Design bugs in the configuration stuff? Would talking to the Excalibur people about extracting the configuration package into a separate JAR be an acceptable solution? Jeremias Maerki --------------------------------------------------------------------- Apache XML Graphics Project URL: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org