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From Dmitri.Coleba...@toyota.com.au
Subject RE: Committers
Date Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:25:52 GMT
oh sorry, I certainly wasn't meaning that you were offending anyone... is
that what you thought I meant?  oops.   I was simply aggreeing with the
initial post pointing out that saying "a 
committer is doing well but needs a little more time to mature" in a
public forum may offend someone, or at least be harder to say.

for now I'll crawl back into my corner (o:

cheers
dim

-----Original Message-----
From: eliot@cs.umass.edu [mailto:eliot@cs.umass.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2004 1:35 PM
To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: Committers

My academic curiosity should not result in offending people.

--
Prof. Christopher Eliot
Department of Computer Science
Seeley-Mudd #502 (413)542-8484
Amerst College eliot@cs.umass.edu

On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Dmitri.Colebatch@toyota.com.au wrote:

> As I see it, its not about unwanted discussion, rather about the 
> ability to talk freely without fear of offending a potential 
> committer.  For my
> (worthless) 2c, I wouldn't have any objection to the committers 
> discussing this privately.
>
> Of course 99% of the time its not an issue.
>
> cheers
> dim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eliot@cs.umass.edu [mailto:eliot@cs.umass.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:34 AM
> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Committers
>
> The discussion is interesting to this lurker and the delete button is 
> easy to hit.
>
> --
> Prof. Christopher Eliot
> Department of Computer Science
> Seeley-Mudd #502 (413)542-8484
> Amerst College eliot@cs.umass.edu
>
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 7:32 PM, David Remy wrote:
>
>> i see your point.  in incubation we had the committer discussion and 
>> vote on the dev list but we don't have to stay that way.  it does 
>> seem like committership is a decision made primarily by the 
>> committers themselves (and project management committee makes sense 
>> too) and discussions about this may not be particularly interesting 
>> or appropriate to others on the dev list.  given that i would lean 
>> toward the dicussion and vote being done in the pmc ...  others want 
>> to weigh in on this?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:53 PM
>>> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Committers
>>>
>>> (this is a little off topic and is general in nature rather than 
>>> specific. i'm haven't followed the schema stuff closely - so i can't 
>>> say anything about radu - but i'm surprised that kevin isn't already 
>>> a committer which seems to be a good test :)
>>>
>>> it's interesting how different communities handle election of 
>>> committers.
>>>
>>> over in jakartaland, we've always held elections for committers in 
>>> the open (elections for the pmc have always been private). AIUI 
>>> httpd (on the other hand) conducts discussions about the merits of 
>>> committers on the private pmc list. i've heard it said that one of 
>>> the reasons why jakarta is said to have a lower bar to committership 
>>> than httpd is a result of this practice. i'm not sure how true this 
>>> is but i can say that whilst i've never heard it said that "a 
>>> committer is doing well but needs a little more time to mature" in a 
>>> jakarta committer election, i have heard it said in the private pmc 
>>> elections. it would certainly be more difficult to express this 
>>> diplomatically on an open list.
>>>
>>> - robert
>>>
>>> On 3 Aug 2004, at 20:38, David Remy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been doing a number of commits for two developers over the
>> last
>>>> year or so that I think should become committers.
>>>>
>>>> Radu Preotiuc-Pietro has been working primarily in the XML Schema 
>>>> Compilation area and has contributed numerous patches as well as 
>>>> responses on the XMLBeans user and dev lists.  I would say, with 
>>>> the exception of David Bau, Radu is probably the most knowledgeable
>> person
>>>> in regards to XMLBeans Schema Compilation.  Currently Radu is
>> working
>>>> on
>>>> incremental schema compilation as well as fixing XML Schema Feature 
>>>> bugs.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Krouse has been working on XMLBeans V1 stability since
>> XMLBeans
>>>> inception both doing testing and development.  He conceived the 
>>>> XMLBeans branching strategy and has submitted numerous patches over 
>>>> the last year or so.  He did the finalization work for the V1 JDK
>>>> 1.3 port.  Also, Kevin has made many posts on the XMLBeans User and 
>>>> Dev lists.  Kevin
>> is
>>>> currently working on a complete review of XMLBeans error messages 
>>>> including adding Error Codes the refer directly to the XML Schema 
>>>> specification.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested you can find Radu and Kevin's submitted
>> patches
>>>> in
>>>> the XMLBeans CVS list by looking for contributed by: in the commit 
>>>> comments.
>>>>
>>>> If there are no major objections I will submit a vote on this in a
>> few
>>>> days.
>>>>
>>>> rem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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