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From Christopher Eliot <el...@cs.umass.edu>
Subject Re: Committers
Date Wed, 04 Aug 2004 12:11:56 GMT
No, I didn't think you were suggesting anything. I was just agreeing 
that
your concern is valid. I think we agree entirely about this issue, 
agreed?

-c

On Aug 4, 2004, at 12:25 AM, Dmitri.Colebatch@toyota.com.au wrote:

> oh sorry, I certainly wasn't meaning that you were offending anyone... 
> is
> that what you thought I meant?  oops.   I was simply aggreeing with the
> initial post pointing out that saying "a
> committer is doing well but needs a little more time to mature" in a
> public forum may offend someone, or at least be harder to say.
>
> for now I'll crawl back into my corner (o:
>
> cheers
> dim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eliot@cs.umass.edu [mailto:eliot@cs.umass.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2004 1:35 PM
> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Committers
>
> My academic curiosity should not result in offending people.
>
> --
> Prof. Christopher Eliot
> Department of Computer Science
> Seeley-Mudd #502 (413)542-8484
> Amerst College eliot@cs.umass.edu
>
> On Aug 3, 2004, at 10:20 PM, Dmitri.Colebatch@toyota.com.au wrote:
>
>> As I see it, its not about unwanted discussion, rather about the
>> ability to talk freely without fear of offending a potential
>> committer.  For my
>> (worthless) 2c, I wouldn't have any objection to the committers
>> discussing this privately.
>>
>> Of course 99% of the time its not an issue.
>>
>> cheers
>> dim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: eliot@cs.umass.edu [mailto:eliot@cs.umass.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:34 AM
>> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Committers
>>
>> The discussion is interesting to this lurker and the delete button is
>> easy to hit.
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Christopher Eliot
>> Department of Computer Science
>> Seeley-Mudd #502 (413)542-8484
>> Amerst College eliot@cs.umass.edu
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2004, at 7:32 PM, David Remy wrote:
>>
>>> i see your point.  in incubation we had the committer discussion and
>>> vote on the dev list but we don't have to stay that way.  it does
>>> seem like committership is a decision made primarily by the
>>> committers themselves (and project management committee makes sense
>>> too) and discussions about this may not be particularly interesting
>>> or appropriate to others on the dev list.  given that i would lean
>>> toward the dicussion and vote being done in the pmc ...  others want
>>> to weigh in on this?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:53 PM
>>>> To: xmlbeans-dev@xml.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Committers
>>>>
>>>> (this is a little off topic and is general in nature rather than
>>>> specific. i'm haven't followed the schema stuff closely - so i can't
>>>> say anything about radu - but i'm surprised that kevin isn't already
>>>> a committer which seems to be a good test :)
>>>>
>>>> it's interesting how different communities handle election of
>>>> committers.
>>>>
>>>> over in jakartaland, we've always held elections for committers in
>>>> the open (elections for the pmc have always been private). AIUI
>>>> httpd (on the other hand) conducts discussions about the merits of
>>>> committers on the private pmc list. i've heard it said that one of
>>>> the reasons why jakarta is said to have a lower bar to committership
>>>> than httpd is a result of this practice. i'm not sure how true this
>>>> is but i can say that whilst i've never heard it said that "a
>>>> committer is doing well but needs a little more time to mature" in a
>>>> jakarta committer election, i have heard it said in the private pmc
>>>> elections. it would certainly be more difficult to express this
>>>> diplomatically on an open list.
>>>>
>>>> - robert
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Aug 2004, at 20:38, David Remy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been doing a number of commits for two developers over the
>>> last
>>>>> year or so that I think should become committers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Radu Preotiuc-Pietro has been working primarily in the XML Schema
>>>>> Compilation area and has contributed numerous patches as well as
>>>>> responses on the XMLBeans user and dev lists.  I would say, with
>>>>> the exception of David Bau, Radu is probably the most knowledgeable
>>> person
>>>>> in regards to XMLBeans Schema Compilation.  Currently Radu is
>>> working
>>>>> on
>>>>> incremental schema compilation as well as fixing XML Schema Feature
>>>>> bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Krouse has been working on XMLBeans V1 stability since
>>> XMLBeans
>>>>> inception both doing testing and development.  He conceived the
>>>>> XMLBeans branching strategy and has submitted numerous patches over
>>>>> the last year or so.  He did the finalization work for the V1 JDK
>>>>> 1.3 port.  Also, Kevin has made many posts on the XMLBeans User and
>>>>> Dev lists.  Kevin
>>> is
>>>>> currently working on a complete review of XMLBeans error messages
>>>>> including adding Error Codes the refer directly to the XML Schema
>>>>> specification.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested you can find Radu and Kevin's submitted
>>> patches
>>>>> in
>>>>> the XMLBeans CVS list by looking for contributed by: in the commit
>>>>> comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there are no major objections I will submit a vote on this in a
>>> few
>>>>> days.
>>>>>
>>>>> rem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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