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From "Eric J. Schwarzenbach" <Eric.Schwarzenb...@wrycan.com>
Subject Re: Xalan3 XSLT 2.0 XPath 2.0 support?
Date Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:05:41 GMT
My company also is moving toward switching to Saxon, even if only the
free version, for XSLT 2.0 support, as well as expected performance
gains (though whether the free, open-source Saxon-B also out-performs
Xalan, as the commercial Saxon-SA seems to, is not clear to me;
certainly comments from Xalan folk on that matter would be of interest).

I must say lack of even any public statement of intentions in the web
site, with regard to XSLT 2.0, as well as the 6 month silence between
the delay of the intended 2.71 version and the next mention of it, has
made us wonder seriously about the future of Xalan. I don't say this to
be critical of the folks generously giving their time to this project,
but just to point out what appearances may be saying (correctly or
incorrectly) to people assessing the competitiveness of the the XSLT
products out there.

Eric Schwarzenbach

Matthew L. Avizinis wrote:
> my 2ยข worth:
> I for one would like to see this.  I've played around with Saxon and
> find that xslt2 is easier to write, read, and maintain.  I've been
> thinking about switching a project I've been working on where I work to
> Saxon for this reason (among others), but I'd miss the nice
> extensibility that Xalan has with its scriptable Java/Javascript (makes
> it nice to include processor extension functions right in a stylesheet)
> and its exslt support.
> Unfortunately, wouldn't be able to contribute much other than reporting
> potential bugs when encountered.
> Matthew L. Avizinis
> Gleim Publications, Inc.
> Henry Zongaro wrote:
>> Hi, Johannes.
>> I'm cross-posting to both mailing lists to make sure we have broad
>> coverage for this discussion.  Everyone, please follow up on
>> xalan-j-users.
>> Johannes Neubauer <johannes.neubauer@cs.uni-dortmund.de> wrote on
>> 2007-07-24 09:57:53 AM:
>>> Will future releases of Xalan-J definitively support XSLT 2.0 and XPath
>>> 2.0?
>>> I searched the user and dev mailing lists and found only 4 year old
>>> postings that say that there will be XSLT 2.0 implementations in future
>>> Xalan-J Releases. Furthermore I found the xslt20/ and xslt20-compiled/
>>> branches in the SVN repositories, but 4 years passed since the last
>>> checkin, too.
>> Speaking as a committer on the Apache Xalan project, I'd certainly be
>> interested in seeing an XSLT 2.0 implementation take shape here.  I'd
>> like to find out how much interest there is from others in seeing an
>> open source XSLT 2.0 implementation from the ASF.  If you're
>> interested in such an implementation (as a user), please respond and
>> let us know which features you're most interested in.  And conversely,
>> I would also like to hear from any users who are satisfied with an
>> XSLT 1.0 processor, and not much interested in migrating to XSLT 2.0.
>> Feel free to respond either on the mailing list or to me directly, in
>> private.  I'll summarize the results of this informal polling in a
>> week or so.
>>> In another mail-archive (not in a apache related) I found a posting that
>>> claimed that a apache programmer has said that there won't come any
>>> implementations for the new specifications, because the management does
>>> not agree with them.
>> For the benefit of the list, I thought I should mention that you told
>> me in a private e-mail that you later realized it was a developer on a
>> different XSLT processor (not an Apache Xalan developer) who said they
>> had no interest in XSLT 2.0.
>> Thanks,
>> Henry
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Henry Zongaro      XSLT Processors Development
>> IBM SWS Toronto Lab   T/L 969-6044;  Phone +1 905 413-6044
>> mailto:zongaro@ca.ibm.com

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