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From Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: No ICLA for some authors in Sun's JAXP 1.3 donation
Date Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:48:24 GMT

On Apr 13, 2005, at 1:52 AM, Neeraj Bajaj wrote:

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> Neeraj Bajaj wrote:
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>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:20 PM, Jeff Suttor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 07:33 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I would do is just remove the names from the code, and in the
>>>>> commit message, note that you are removing as they are internal Sun
>>>>> committers, that their work was done at Sun before the 
>>>>> contribution was
>>>>> made, and you are removing them to eliminate the confusion that 
>>>>> arose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would prefer that my @author stay intact.
>>>> I have just sent in an ICLA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter for this case - the existence of the author tags 
>>> reflects work that happened before the software was donated to 
>>> Apache, so from a legal standpoint, it's moot.  I know this may come 
>>> across as harsh, and I don't mean to be -
>>
> IANAL, So i would leave the legalities to you :-) Is it fine author to 
> be listed as a comment in the file , without the tag ?

At this point, I don't think there's a legal issue, no matter what you 
do with the tag.  That was taken care of in it's entirety by the CCLA 
from Sun which granted to the ASF a license to the codebase.

geir

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> - Neeraj
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>>> the use of author tags is a community issue (and a generally 
>>> contentious one!)  and one that the ASF board has recommended 
>>> against.  However it is up to the individual project to decide how 
>>> author tags are handled.
>>>
>> My opinion would be not to remove the author tag. Author tag shows 
>> the contribution of a person and is a good contact point in case any 
>> one needs to clarifiy certain behavior. Actually it would be good if 
>> Jeff can be made a committer as part of the code grant because of his 
>> contribution in so many files. His becoming committer  would also be 
>> good for the ASF project and the community.
>>
>> - Neeraj
>>
>>> Personally, I'd find it utterly baffling to find an author tag in 
>>> the file with no related commit by that author.  An alternative to 
>>> just erasing them, in order to preserve that information  in some 
>>> way, would be to move it to the NOTICE file for the project?
>>>
>>> An alternative also is to contribute to the project and become a 
>>> committer.  you do have the paperwork done :)
>>>
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