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From sterling <sstou...@thelinks.com>
Subject Re: Donation of JAXP 1.3 Sources to Apache
Date Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:38:16 GMT

How would client side browsers that did not have or allow java be 
impacted?


On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Neeraj Bajaj wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I was wondering when can we start merging the JAXP 1.3 sources ? Merging 
> the code in branch/review/testing/committing to main trunk
> would take time so at least from my side i would like to see this work 
> started as early as possible say from tomorrow.  
> What is the general procedure ? Is there any formality that needs to be 
> completed first ? What is the opinion of
> (Xml-commons/Xerces/Xalan) committers ?
> 
> As the sources would be put in a branch so it won't affect normal 
> development but it would be good if we can restrict
> large chunk of changes to the main trunk and fix only critical changes. 
> It would help merging the changes back to main
> trunk. What do others think ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Neeraj
> 
> 
> Neeraj Bajaj wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Ramesh Mandava wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Both Elliotte's and Clay's questions below are important.  If someone
> >>> familiar with the code could comment on:  For either the main trunk, or
> >>> a temporary working branch for integration:
> >>>
> >>> -- What JVM's will this code compile on?  Version/Vendors?
> >>>
> >>   J2SE 1.4.x,  J2SE 5.0 . We tried this on Sun JDKs but the same 
> >> sources should run on  other JVMs as well.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -- What JVM's will this code run on?  Version/Vendors?
> >>>
> >>
> >> J2SE 1.3.x, J2SE 1.4.x,  J2SE 5.0. Again we qualified the sources on 
> >> Sun JVM. But as there is no Sun JVM specific codem these  sources 
> >> should work on other JVMs without modification ( we have to try it 
> >> out though  :-) ). 
> >
> >
> > Right. This hasn't been tried but i don't see any reason why it 
> > shouldn't work on any other JVM as there isn't any Sun JVM specific code.
> >
> > In other mail i have suggested that active Xerces/Xalan committers can 
> > try this before committin on main truck as the plan is to put the code
> > on branch first. I proposed JAXP 1.3 APIs to be committed on 
> > xml-commons main trunk but i am totally fine with creating a branch 
> > first to test
> > the compatibility with other JVM.
> >
> > Neeraj
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> We need to *clearly* document which versions this stuff works on, and
> >>> should conditionally compile or something if it won't compile on at
> >>> least 1.3
> >>
> >>
> >> Right now we face compilation problems in couple of file with J2SE 
> >> 1.3, but these should be worked around though. We can atleast have a 
> >> switch to achieve the requirement  of compiling on J2SE 1.3.
> >>
> >>> (since we still have a lot of older JDK version users here).
> >>>
> >>> My knee-jerk reaction is also to hope that it will compile & run on
> >>> both recent Sun and IBM JVMs at least before we put this on the main
> >>> trunk: we should really try to be JVM-vendor agnostic.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I agree.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> -Ramesh
> >>
> >>> (anyone still
> >>> working on kaffe?  8-)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> --- Clay Leeds <cleeds@medata.com> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 12, 2004, at 5:12 AM, Elliotte Harold wrote:
> >>>>  
> >>>>
> >>>>> Are these APIs and implementation thereof independent of Java 1.5?

> >>>>>     i.e. can they be compiled and used in a Java 1.2/1.3/1.4
> >>>>>     
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> environment?   
> >>>>
> >>>>> If not, could they be backported to work in such environments?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Elliotte Rusty Harold  elharo@metalab.unc.edu
> >>>>> XML in a Nutshell 3rd Edition Just Published!
> >>>>> http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/xian3/
> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0596007647/cafeaulaitA/

> >>>>> ref%3Dnosim
> >>>>>     
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Forgive me if this is covered under Mr. Harold's question, but:
> >>>>
> >>>> Would this also be portable to IBM Java 1.30 (and any other 
> >>>> non-Sun  implementation of Java...)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Web Maestro Clay
> >>>>
> >>>> p.s.  I'm not trying to look a gift-horse in the mouth--Thank you
> >>>> Sun!  Love your logo!
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Clay Leeds - <cleeds@medata.com>
> >>>> Webmaster/Developer - Medata, Inc. - <http://www.medata.com/>
> >>>> PGP Public Key: <https://mail.medata.com/pgp/cleeds.asc>
> >>>>   
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> =====
> >>> - Shane
> >>>
> >>> <eof .sig="http://apachecon.com/ November in Vegas, baby!" />
> >>>
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