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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Glen Mazza <grm7793@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: http://xml.apache.org/mirrors.cgi
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Comment below:

--- Tetsuya Kitahata <kitahata@terra-intl.com> wrote:
> Glenn Mazza Wrote:
> 
> > Either it's rarely updated (obviously), or only
> > updated by teams that remember it.  Usually, one
> goes
> > to the precise web page (Xerces, Xalan, FOP, etc.)
> for
> > the SW  wanted and follows the instructions from
> > there.
> 
> Au
> 
> > FOP, at least, doesn't appear to be getting many
> > complaints about this.
> 
> "Chicken and Egg" relation.
> 
> > > I mean, how can we get *new* binaries and
> sources
> > > of xml.apache.org products? Due to the lack of
> the
> > > comprehension of the updates @ mirrors.html?
> 
> > Many/Most of XML Apache's projects are becoming
> TLP's
> > on their own.  We're perhaps not as closely tied
> > together as the Jakarta teams.  Best to just go to
> the
> > web page of the specific product you wish to
> download.
> 
> Woooo ... and how do would you think to update
> http://xml.apache.org/mirrors.cgi
> after most of the projects (subs) move up into TLPs?
> 
> Who would be responsible for it to update
> mirrors.cgi?
> 
> Who would be responsible for the announcement of 
> "APACHE XML RELATED -- federated -- projects" ?
> 
> # for reference: now announcements@xml.apache has
> 2000 subscribers
> 
> Why federated? common -- infrastructure -- for xml
> team??
> Why do not you want to put the good conditions for
> the
> * ex-xml.apache.org -ed * projects?
> #Of course I will, if i have a sufficient karma to
> do
> 

Sorry, Tetsuya.  For someone to be entrusted with
updating the XML Apache web pages, he/she would need
to write cleanly and professionally.  This includes
taking the time to proofread written work before
submitting it (maybe even capitalizing those "i"'s.) 
Absent these traits, you end up disrespecting the
reader.

Just typing up slop and sending it out--the
unfortunate approach you took here in introducing
yourself to us--would not reflect well on our web
pages.  No one here would be in the mood to keep
rewriting what you cvs commit--it would better for the
page to be somewhat out-of-date than to be poorly
written.

Glen

> --
> 
> Perhaps this can be discussed at the "proposal of
> ferderative networks"
> in xml.apache.org land, also.
> 
> Cheers,
> 


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