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From Jeremias Maerki <dev.jerem...@greenmail.ch>
Subject Re: Draft discussion of Federation proposal
Date Sun, 04 Jan 2004 17:08:12 GMT
(I'm CCing batik-dev and fop-dev once to invite everyone to discuss this
on general@xml. Please repond on general only and do not cross-post
unneccessarily.)

Concerning the proposed TLPs I'm wondering if FOP and Batik shouldn't go
together somehow. Both projects deal with XML to graphics conversions.
FOP currently has 2 Batik Transcoder implementations (additional output
formats for Batik: PDF, PS/EPS). So there is some kind of overlap which
needs to be dealt with sooner or later. One possibility is to move the
transcoders over to Batik but parts of them are FOP-specific so both
projects should somehow be able to work on the common code. Moving these
out of FOP still means a dependency on FOP's PDF, PostScript and font
support code. These might need to be separated into "Commons" projects
to be accessible to both projects and to ensure compatibility and
cooperation.

Sorry if this is a bit technical and not entirely on-topic but I thought
this may have to be addressed in this discussion.

To be fully on-topic again: When the XML project becomes a federation of
projects it may make sense to create pointers to other rather
XML-oriented projects which live in the Jakarta area (like Jakarta ECS,
Jakarta Commons Betwixt, Digester, Jelly, JXPath, there may be others).

As for the question about preference for XML Commons. I'd like to see
Apache Commons become more live. In this aspect XML Commons should IMO
go over to Apache Commons. On the other side, it may well be that Apache
Commons will, to a great extent, also be a federation project. And
moving too many project over there will create an oversight problem
there in time. I guess the decision here depends on the development of
Apache Commons and the projects intentions. So in the end I'm unsure
what to prefer.

In general, I currently don't see any showstoppers in Berin's proposal.

On 04.01.2004 12:23:55 Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> Have put together a very rough draft of how a federation of projects 
> around XML might be created.
> 
> Caveat - it really is very draft, and purely there as a discussion 
> starter.  Feel free to either post comments/thoughts back to the list or 
> to edit the document directly.  (Note that this document does not yet 
> discuss next steps, such as agreements from each sub-project etc.)
> 
> All comments very welcome.  The board requested a proposal by the Jan 
> board meeting (normally around the 20th of the month), so it would be 
> good to move the discussion forward - whether around this or another 
> proposal.
> 
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?XMLProjectPages/FederationProposal



Jeremias Maerki


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