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From Glen Mazza <grm7...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [Fwd: Re: XML PMC and Oversight]
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:40:12 GMT
--- Berin Lautenbach <berin@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> Would also be interested in whether people have been
> following the idea 
> of PPMCs in the Incubator.  

Couldn't find the thread--what does the PPMC acronym
stand for?  Also, are the specific oversight
requirements of Apache board available online
somewhere?  It might be easier to determine the
correct path to go once everyone is aware of what
needs to be done.  

> In essence, each
> sub-project has it's own 
> PMC (the PPMC) which is made up of the key players
> in the sub-project. 

But wasn't the Apache board's original concern that a
subproject's committers, by themselves, are not
sufficient to ensure quality of work?  We should be
careful that a subset of the same people, even if they
are the "key players", will alleviate those concerns. 


> Also in the PPMC are all the members of the PMC. 
> The latter are there 
> purely to provide oversite - i.e. ensure that
> decisions are being made 
> appropriately and in the Apache style.
> 

But I thought the reason for moving to subproject
PPMC's to begin with was that the XML PMC members did
*not* have the time to do subproject oversight at the
granularity that the Apache board wanted.  

How will available time for the XML PMC members to do
this oversight work materialize as a result of them
joining the PPMCs?  

My general caution would be that XML Apache should be
careful not to make any organizational changes if
those changes won't satisfy the board's needs.  In
particular, if the requirements are simply too
time-consuming no matter how you restructure things,
it would probably be better to work on that problem
first before considering PPMC's.

Glen Mazza
Apache FOP Team


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