Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-general-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 13656 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2003 18:26:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: general@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 13645 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2003 18:26:16 -0000 Subject: RE: Issues with XMLBeans proposal To: general@xml.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org, general@xml.apache.org, "Jakarta General List" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Neil Graham" Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 14:26:14 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D25ML04/25/M/IBM(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 07/03/2003 02:26:16 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Cliff, I think the copy list of your note to Howard must have been a good bit narrower than the copy list of this response to Andy. :) Any chance you could enlighten those of us in this broader group who are interested as to the technical points on which XMLBeans differs from other technologies? Cheers! Neil Neil Graham XML Parser Development IBM Toronto Lab Phone: 905-413-3519, T/L 969-3519 E-mail: neilg@ca.ibm.com |---------+----------------------------> | | "Cliff Schmidt" | | | | | | | | | 07/03/2003 02:22 | | | PM | | | Please respond to| | | general | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Jakarta General List" , , | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Issues with XMLBeans proposal | | | | | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| On Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:01 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > So what in this ensures this will be a community-developed project > and not just an Apache branded extension of BEA? I really would like > to see you guys involved in Apache, but not in a way the compromises > Apache. There is a challenge that limits the excitement of others in > that there are so many other similar projects that do exactly the > same thing. Perhaps it would benefit the effort if you explained why > we needed another one. That has no bearing on its suitability but it > might make people more interested who wouldn't be otherwise. As Santiago points out, the veto rule provides some protection over pure majority, but I don't think anyone here wants to rely on that. All I can tell you is that BEA is more concerned about establishing a long term relationship with Apache and other open source communities than controlling the future development of XMLBeans. From our perspective, we have much more to gain by proving ourselves as credible and positive contributors to open source, especially since we would like XMLBeans to be the first in a series of open source contributions. If the BEA committers attempt to make decisions against the wishes of the rest of the community and are viewed negatively for doing so, we have absolutely failed in what we set out to do. See my response to Howard's questions for more on how the project differs technically from other open source projects. Cliff --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org