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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal
Date Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:50:17 GMT
+1

On 7/3/03 2:26 PM, "Neil Graham" <neilg@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi Cliff,
> 
> I think the copy list of your note to Howard must have been a good bit
> narrower than the copy list of this response to Andy.  :)  Any chance you
> could enlighten those of us in this broader group who are interested as to
> the technical points on which XMLBeans differs from other technologies?
> 
> Cheers!
> Neil
> Neil Graham
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Phone:  905-413-3519, T/L 969-3519
> E-mail:  neilg@ca.ibm.com
> 
> 
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> |         |           07/03/2003 02:22 |
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> 
> On Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:01 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> 
>> So what in this ensures this will be a community-developed project
>> and not just an Apache branded extension of BEA?  I really would like
>> to see you guys involved in Apache, but not in a way the compromises
>> Apache.  There is a challenge that limits the excitement of others in
>> that there are so many other similar projects that do exactly the
>> same thing.  Perhaps it would benefit the effort if you explained why
>> we needed another one.  That has no bearing on its suitability but it
>> might make people more interested who wouldn't be otherwise.
> 
> As Santiago points out, the veto rule provides some protection over
> pure majority, but I don't think anyone here wants to rely on that.
> All I can tell you is that BEA is more concerned about establishing a
> long term relationship with Apache and other open source communities
> than controlling the future development of XMLBeans.  From our
> perspective, we have much more to gain by proving ourselves as credible
> and positive contributors to open source, especially since we would
> like XMLBeans to be the first in a series of open source contributions.
> If the BEA committers attempt to make decisions against the wishes of
> the rest of the community and are viewed negatively for doing so, we
> have absolutely failed in what we set out to do.
> 
> See my response to Howard's questions for more on how the project
> differs technically from other open source projects.
> 
> Cliff
> 
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