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From "Ted Leung" <twle...@sauria.com>
Subject Re: Committer Voting [Was: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter]
Date Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:01:20 GMT

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From: "Berin Lautenbach" <berin@ozemail.com.au>
To: <general@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Committer Voting [Was: Revisions to xml.apache.org charter]


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> Neil Graham wrote:
>
> | Interesting.  Yet I can't check out jakarta-struts, for example,
> except via
> | anoncvs.  Can anyone explain this?  It might be fun to test this, except
> | that it might somehow succeed.  :)
>
> I had cause to try this out recently, and I found I could check out
> xml-xalan (using my Apache ID, not anoncvs), but I couldn't update it.
>
> Got a message about not enough Karma :>.  As I understand it, there is
> some work that has been done to give people in a project read access to
> all sub-projects, but only write access to specific ones.
>
> | The trouble is that, if we're writing rules about how subprojects should
> | work, I'm not sure "pretty much knowing" is a high enough bar.  What
we're
> | basically saying here is that sometimes committers can be safely
ignored;
> | some day, some disagreement may arise about that, where perceptions
might
> | differ.  An edge case perhaps, but one it would seem best to prepare
> for by
> | making things as objective and as clear as possible.
>
> At the moment we are all assuming that an x/y majority means that y
> represents the entire population of voters (almost an Australian style
> democracy, where we are required to vote by law :>).  Wouldn't it be
> better to have y to represent the total number of people who decide to
> vote on a given issue in a given time period?

That's basically 3 +1's and no -1's.  The problem is with issues where we
really ought
to have high voter turnout....

> It's also in line with the incubator voting document that Ted referenced
> in another e-mail.
>


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