Sam Ruby wrote: > Merge or diverge. Having community boundaries distinct from PMC > boundaries is not sustainable. And what about Commons and Commons-Sandbox? One can imagine these as the refugee camps for smallish subprojects, without the 'community' to go toplevel. http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/ http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons-sandbox/ might contain a lot of subprojects which doesn't fit your criteria sizewise. Should these all be put back to incubator stage? Or do they share a common 'Commons' community? I understand your point that a single PMC overlooking a lot of scattered projects doesn't scale. Still, I believe some of these smallish subprojects can share a common spirit, without sharing the developers community. Merging all of these will make them less visible to the outside world IMHO - meaning developers can meet, merge or exchange, but to prospective users it will all be one big sinkhole. -- Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/ stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org