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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicola...@apache.org>
Subject Re: The organization of xml.apache.org
Date Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:59:52 GMT

Jeff Turner wrote:
> Let's clarify exactly what is broken before fixing it.

If you are not part of a PMC, you have no legal protection from the ASF.
Thus we are advocating that all projects be -projects- where possible 
(not sub-projects), with their own PMC with all dedicated committers in it.

Here is part of an explanation on avalon-dev from Greg Stein:

"The primary motivation is to create a more direct path from those
accountable and responsible (the PMC) and the code. Without a direct,
obvious, and demonstrable oversight, it will be impossible for the ASF 
to show that the code was developed and released according to *its* desires.
IOW, it was done by individuals, so the liability falls to those

Yes, the risk associated with that liability is awfully low, but the ASF
exists to make it zero. (the ASF exists for other reasons, of course, 
but I'm trying to stay focused here :-)


The role of a PMC member does not incur any overhead relative to what 
you are already doing. In fact, Roy Fielding has stated that the 
division between a voting committer(*) and a PMC member is not supposed 
to exist.
IOW, if you have voting rights, then you should be on the PMC.

The Chair has a duty to provide the Board with a quarterly report, but 
has no other additional time overhead. The Chair *is* an officer of the
corporation, which incurs certain responsibilities and accountability, 
but an officer also happens to receive more legal protection than the 
PMC members :-)

Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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