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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Question for new projects
Date Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:19:19 GMT

first of all, thanks for asking, we are all very excited to see new
efforts added to the Apache XML project.

Stephan Michels wrote:
> Hi,
> I have some question about new projects for xml.apache.org. I
> have two project on my hands, which I want to give the apache
> community. The first project is created in a very great Project
> with limited resources(www.vs-c.de). I could persuade the leader
> of the project, give the source free under the apache licence.
> This project isn't really big.
> It is a MathML converter. It's converts MathML expressions to
> GIF and SVG through a Cocoon sitemap component. For scienctists,
> like me, there is big demand to publish mathematical expressions
> in the WWW. And at his moment, there aren't many posibillities
> to do this.
> This project could be a subproject for cocoon, because it makes
> intensive use of the cocoon. But in the furture, I want to write
> a ant task to be independ from the cocoon. The converter can also
> use to help the fop to display MathML, using the SVGConverter.
> Perhaps in the future it can use the Area tree from the fop.
> So my question want you pushing this project under yours?

I do see a big need for such a thing, for sure, a MathML oriented effort
will have clear impact on FOP, Batik and Cocoon.

> And my second project have I written in my free time. It's LALR(1)
> Parser. No no, not like yacc od bison like the others. As i learnd
> XML, I saw many ways to create from XML every thing like text files,
> PDF, HTML etc. By no way to from a simple text document to a XML file.
> So my basic idea was to create a parser with known technics for
> parser generator and merge its the XML technics.
> So yet I have my first version completed. This parser not a parser
> generator. Its a pure parser, which could parse a text document with a
> given grammar, written im XML. It should parse micro fragments like
> "5+6*7-a", or a hole java file.
> It can to used to convert latex to xml, it can also used
> to hightlight the syntax of a java.
> What does you mean, is there a demand for my projects?

I also see a need for such a thing and I would find it useful to wrap it
with a cocoon generator.

There is only one problem that I see: in order to start a subproject, we
require at least *two* active developers that have diverse affiliations.

Please read the jakarta criteria which are very similar to the one we


This said, it's entirely possible that your contribution might end up
living under another subproject and factored out as more people are
working on it.

Or, another option, is to host them on sourceforge and start a community
there, keeping the software license compatible with Apache's.

Please understand this is nothing technical or personal: we are afraid
of accepting donations about efforts that aren't already backed up by a
strong and healthy open development community. And this appears to be
your case.

Again, at the same time, this doesn't mean that we are not happy to
accept your contribution and, eventually (upon community votation), to
give you CVS access if you decide to continue its development.

But I think your projects, as they are, don't meet our criteria for
subproject creation.

What do others think?

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche

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