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Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 06:06:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [xerces2] info about some packaging changes
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Neil,

Agreed. My concern was that we should update when we think it is right...There should not be
artificial constraints to restrain us. 

Thanks,
dims

--- neilg@ca.ibm.com wrote:
> Hi Dims,
> 
> Just to make sure there's no possibility of confusion:  No version of
> Xerces builds xml-apis.jar.  Xerces2 builds an API jar file that contains a
> subset of the APIs represented in xml-apis.jar, and it gives that jar a
> different name (xmlParserAPIs.jar for now) to make absolutely sure users
> know what it's for.
> 
> As to what's stored in xml-commons:  my preference would be for us to wait
> until DOM level 3 reaches a more stable level and SAX 2.0 finally reaches
> r2 before deciding what to do.  I suspect it probably will make sense to
> upgrade the API's in xml-commons at that point, but once we get there we'll
> have a better view of the lay of the land; no sense in deciding that while
> these API's are still in beta or working draft.
> 
> Cheers,
> Neil
> Neil Graham
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Phone:  905-413-3519, T/L 969-3519
> E-mail:  neilg@ca.ibm.com
> 
> 
> 
> Davanum Srinivas <dims@yahoo.com> on 11/30/2001 07:53:16 AM
> 
> Please respond to general@xml.apache.org
> 
> To:   general@xml.apache.org
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: [xerces2] info about some packaging changes
> 
> 
> Shane, Edwin,
> 
> #1: I think xml-apis.jar should contain the same thing whether it is built
> by Xalan project or
> Xerces Project.
> 
> #2: My vote is to include latest DOM and SAX Standards (Not necessarily
> J2EE-1.3 compatible). We
> cannot and should not stop moving forward just because SUN picked up a
> snapshot to bundle with
> J2EE.
> 
> Thanks,
> dims
> 
> --- Edwin Goei <edwingo@sun.com> wrote:
> > Shane_Curcuru@lotus.com wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > I.e. to me the point is that we're agreeing to ship *stable*
> > > externally-defined standards-based files in a jar named xml-apis.jar.
> Any
> > > other files a project wants to use should go in their implementation
> jar,
> > > or somewhere else; and the xml-apis.jar should always include it's full
> > > contents, and should match very closely (except for last-minute
> bugfixes)
> > > the same code as in xml-commons.
> > >
> > > Am I making any sense?  Does anyone else agree with me?  (Note, they're
> > > separate questions!)  One other important issue is we should have some
> > > manifest packaging expert help us all implement some better documented
> and
> > > finely-grained versioning info in our manifests; I've started in
> > > xml-xalan/java/src/MANIFEST.MF but it needs updating and I'm not sure
> I've
> > > gotten it quite right yet.
> >
> > I think there are some more involved issue here.  JAXP APIs involve both
> > a parser and XSLT processor so there needs to be some coordination
> > between projects which may be difficult to achieve so that a single
> > xml-apis.jar file from xml-commons can be produced.  As it is now, it
> > looks like Xalan has an xml-apis.jar file but it only contains the
> > javax.xml.transform classes.
> >
> > Also, there are issues w/ which version of the standard to include in
> > xml-apis.jar.  I posted some emails on this on xerces-j-dev recently and
> > about whether to support the latest versions of standards or some people
> > want ones that are J2EE 1.3 compatible, for example.
> >
> > I don't have any answers, though.
> >
> > -Edwin
> >
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