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From "Anne Thomas Manes" <a...@manes.net>
Subject RE: [POLL] WASP Lite on Apache?
Date Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:38:26 GMT
Excellent idea. We'd have to come up with a new name for the current Axis
project so as not to give it preferential name recognition.

I also like the idea of getting some ebXML projects going.
The WASP framework is designed to be XML Protocol independent, so it could
be used to implement an ebXML Message Service implementation. I'll see if I
can recruit a community for such a project.
Perhaps we'd like to revisit Peter Kacandes's poll to submit ebXML reg/rep
(which is now at SourceForge)?

Shall we move this discussion to the axis-dev list?

Anne

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:18 AM
> To: general@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [POLL] WASP Lite on Apache?
>
>
> Sam Ruby wrote:
> >
> > Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> > >
> > > One way to make things more apparent would be to pull the
> SOAP project under
> > > the Axis project (or vice versa). It also might help to provide some
> > > indication on the Web site that SOAP and Axis are in some way
> related to
> > > each other. Note that on the http://xml.apache.org main page,
> Axis is listed
> > > in the left column of projects, but it's not listed in the
> main text (which
> > > implies that it isn't an XML sub-project?). (XML Security
> doesn't appear to
> > > be a sub-project either). What this means is that unless
> someone knows to
> > > look for Axis, new-comers will automatically go to the SOAP
> page and never
> > > find the Axis project. There's no mention of Axis either in
> the SOAP project
> > > description on the main page or on the SOAP project page.
> > >
> > > It would be useful to have some verbage on the project pages
> that ties the
> > > SOAP and Axis project together -- perhaps a single project
> page that lists
> > > the ongoing SOAP projects. This approach would also easily accommodate
> > > another SOAP project (e.g., WASP).
> >
> > Or come up with a new name for us to bring together these
> projects (i.e., a
> > fresh slate).  Such an umbrella under a PMC is not without
> precident, see
> > Jakarta's Avalon and Turbine projects.  We could also discuss
> factoring out
> > portions that are potentially common to mulitple code bases
> (e.g., JAX RPC,
> > Wsdl2Java, etc.).
> >
> > The one thing I want to insist is to have a single -dev list in order to
> > facilitate the building of a community.  Multiple -user lists
> can are fine.
>
> I like this: one subproject, one -dev community and as many
> distributions/codebases/CVS-modules as you decide.
>
> Now, since Axis is already there, why don't we use Axis as such
> sub-container?
>
> This would:
>
> 1) give you more freedom to accept new donations, yet removing the
> perception that one codebase gets more visibility than others.
>
> 2) Axis is a technology-neutral name. It also "suggests" for many
> orthogonal directions to cover up the solution space.
>
> 3) It has an established and diverse dev community.
>
> So imagine the entry in xml.apache.org:
>
>  Apache Axis aims to implement the software that let you
>  enable web services.
>
> Simple, clean, visible, immediate and politically neutral.
>
> Then it's up to the axis-dev community to accept donations, refactor
> code, create revolutionary schedules, manage technology litigations and
> so on.
>
> And let me add: out of "general@xml.apache.org" which is way more
> general than a place to discuss about web services.
>
> This said, it's obvious that this project should also try to come up
> with a way to let the two web-services players (UDDI/ebXML) talk and
> collaborate, at least on a technical basis. Apache is and *MUST* remain
> politically neutral, otherwise people will change their perception of
> our technical excellence.
>
> --
> Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
>                           able to give birth to a dancing star.
> <stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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