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From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [POLL] WASP Lite on Apache?
Date Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:50:11 GMT
Sam,

For Xalan and Cocoon, All the committers are actively working on just the latest cvs trees
(Xalan2
and Cocoon2). Do we really want to get into the same sitaution as we have with
Xerces1/Xerces2/Crimson? One project am really happy with the way it came about is the Batik.
See
http://xml.apache.org/batik/faqs.html#faq-7 for how the initial implementation was a merger
of
different code bases from different sources. Am sure there were growing pains....But look
at the
result.

I definitely want the Axis Developers to chime-in with a proposal/ideas/suggestions on how
we can
proceed. I really love the idea that we can "Stealing heavily from both code bases to create
the
best product in the marketplace". This is a great oppurtunity. Let us do it right.

Thanks,
dims

--- Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> General thoughts:
> 
>    This is just a poll at this point.  A perfectly reasonable response
>    might be for the PMC to request that consensus be reached first on the
>    Axis dev mailing list before proceeding to a vote.  Three of the five
>    PMC members actively follow that list anyway...
> 
>    I'm not clear on what the difference between internal fork and external
>    fork.  Two committers (and an undisclosed at this point, but presumably
>    small number of other developers) decided to go their own way for a
>    period of time, and now want to share their results with the community.
> 
> Status of other forks:
> 
>    Currently Xerces 1 and 2 are in separate cvs trees and have separate
>    entries on xml.apache.org's web site; as does Crimson.  Committers to
>    any one code base have karma to all.
> 
>    Xalan1 and Xalan2 were in the same cvs tree, but had separate entries on
>    xml.apache.org's web site for a time.  Now Xalan1 is no more.
> 
>    Currently Cocoon1 and 2 are in separate cvs trees (originally they were
>    in one), and have separate entries on xml.apache.org's web site.
>    Committers to the either code base have karma to both.
> 
>    Currently Soap  and Axis are in separate cvs trees and have separate
>    entries on xml.apache.org's web site.  In creating Axis, I did take the
>    opportunity to cull the list of inactive committers - with the statement
>    that any could become active simply by a simple request.
> 
> My personal priorities (in no particular order):
> 
>    Reuniting the community.
>    Not disrupting the progress of Axis to release while this donation is in
>    process.
>    Stealing heavily from both code bases to create the best product in the
>    marketplace
> 
> Note:
> 
>    I had the opportunity to meet Anne Thomas Manes for the first time last
>    week at the O'Reilly P2P and WebServices conference, as did Dirk.  We
>    discussed the priorities I listed above, and I recommended that this
>    proceed by her posting to the general@xml.apache.org mailing list to
>    gather input.  I knew her name as she often posted to both the soap and
>    axis mailing lists, generally by answering people's questions about SOAP
>    and related technologies.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> 
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