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From "Theodore W. Leung" <twle...@sauria.com>
Subject Re: website++: some ideas...
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2001 21:15:50 GMT
Thank you to Max for being willing to contribute his efforts!


On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 07:27, max@corrosive.co.uk wrote:
> ... version 3 seems to be gaining consensus...
> 
> I'm not sure the vertical navigation bar will force the use of complex tables.
> A horizontal one is surely feasible, but it implies re-working the 
> navigation structure, as the number of primary links actually on the 
> site would make it impossible, and I can't make that decision.
> 
> The cloud background should be also feasible to realise as a tiling 
> image and it'll be placed as table background - I will run tests, but 
> my guess is that the content of the page will be available while the 
> browser loads the image.
> 
> Thanks
> Max
> 
> 
> At 9:57 AM -0500 11/1/01, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >I like the overall look of these sites, and prefer version 3 as it looks
> >better.  However, the following criticisms can hopefully help the site
> >as a whole:
> >

I'm also in favor of version 3.

> >* The concept of Right Hand and Left Hand navigation bars force the use
> >   of complex tables.  As a result, the text does not reflow easily.
> >   Try using a two row horizontal navigation menu instead.  The first
> >   row has the major headings, and the bottom row has all the sub headings:
> >
> >   Main Headings:
> >     Home  Projects  Distribution Info  Getting Involved   People  Contact Info
> >
> >   SubHeadings:
> >     Home:
> >       Home  News  Mission  Guidelines
> >     Projects:
> >       Xerces Java 1  Xerces Java 2  Xerces C++  Xerces Perl  Xalan Java 2
> >       Xalan C++  FOP  Cocoon 1  Cocoon 2  Xang  SOAP  Batik  Crimson  Axis
> >       XML Security
> >     Distribution Info:
> >       Downloads  Bug Database
> >     Getting Involved:
> >       Get Involved  Repositories  Mailing Lists  Reference
> >     People:
> >       Who We Are  Credits
> >     Contact Info:
> >       Legal Stuff  Contact Info
> >
> >     With all the menu stuff at the top, it still feels natural, but the site
> >     feels more organized and the content is most emphasized.
> >

I'd prefer to stay with the vertical menu.

> >* The cloud background behind xml.apache.org may be a bit much.  If it is
> >   easily tiled, then it might be worth exploring--but it looks like one large
> >   graphic.
> >
> >* I LOVE the navigation status bar (xml.apache.org > home).  This is a must
> >   have.

I'm not sure how we are going to generate this from the stylebook or
docbook sources.   I like it, but no promises -- unless an HTML / XSLT /
Cocoon guru steps up to the plate.


Ted

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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Max Guglielmino
> Corrosive
> http://www.corrosive.co.uk
> 
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