xml-general mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From Davanum Srinivas <d...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Proposal: new xml-commons subproject for standards-based files
Date Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:38:27 GMT
+1 from me.

Thanks,
dims

--- Scott_Boag@lotus.com wrote:
> 
> +1!
> 
> -scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                                                                     
           
>                   
>                     Shane_Curcuru                                                   
           
>                   
>                     @lotus.com           To:     general@xml.apache.org             
           
>                   
>                                          cc:     (bcc: Scott Boag/CAM/Lotus)        
           
>                   
>                     04/17/01             Subject:     [VOTE] Proposal: new xml-commons
> subproject for              
>                     12:08 PM             standards-based files                      
           
>                   
>                     Please                                                          
           
>                   
>                     respond to                                                      
           
>                   
>                     general                                                         
           
>                   
>                                                                                     
           
>                   
>                                                                                     
           
>                   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I propose a new xml.apache.org/xml-commons subproject to fulfill the need
> for a central repository for various XML standards-based files and common
> tools.
> 
> COMMITTERS-PLEASE-VOTE! Although I'm not sure of the exact voting procedure
> for creating whole new subprojects, I'm hoping to see a bunch of +1's to
> start with; feel free to either reply-to or use the handy mini-xml ballot
> below.
> 
> NON-COMMITTERS-PLEASE-DISCUSS! While votes from non-committers are not
> binding your discussion and insights are very valuable!
> 
> Key: committer="your_apache_login" email="your@preferred.email.address"
>   Leave committer blank if you aren't; vote must be +1 | 0 | -1
>   Add comment(s) if you like on specific issues
> 
> <ballot committer="" email="">
>   <vote issue="xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1" vote
> =""><comment></comment></vote>
>   <vote issue="xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers" vote
> =""><comment></comment></vote>
> </ballot>
> 
> <xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1>
> Proposal: form a new xml.apache.org subproject called xml-commons to
> fulfill the below needs.
> 
> (0) Rationale:
> Many xml.apache.org projects use and ship with sets of similar
> externally-defined standards-based code; differences in versioning and
> configuration of this code often make developing and using our projects
> more difficult.  A common place for all xml.apache.org projects to get DOM,
> SAX, JAXP, and other externally-defined code would be a fairly low-cost and
> low-maintenance way to alleviate these difficulties.  Having a subproject
> and a community focused on cross-xml-subproject issues will also help drive
> better cross-project coordination and tooling.
> 
> (0.1) Programming Languages: While the coding details of Java/C/Perl/etc
> are obviously different, the core concept is the same: a central repository
> for all xml.apache.org projects to share common interfaces and utilities.
> We should start with xml-commons/java, xml-commons/c, and xml-commons/perl
> since these languages are in current use in various xml.apache.org
> subprojects today.
> 
> 
> (1) Scope of this subproject:
> 
> (1.1) Common externally-defined standards:
> This includes the packages: org.w3c.dom.**, org.xml.sax.**, and javax.xml.
> **  This is designed to essentially be an xml.apache.org-specific holding
> place for commonly-used interfaces/headers that are created outside of
> Apache.  This subproject should provide guidelines and build scripts to aid
> xml.apache.org groups to easily use these common files in a common manner
> across all subprojects.  This subproject should provide some basic
> versioning abilities so that xml.apache.org projects temporarily using
> new/beta/updated/proposed versions of these specs can continue to get their
> code from this area.
> 
> (1.2) Common xml-oriented utilities:
> We should also include additional utilities/common code in this subproject,
> like current copies of bsf.jar, stylebook, servlet API classes, etc.  This
> could also include code that did originate in an Apache project, that we
> wanted to centralize the use of: SystemIDResolver, XML Serializers, etc.
> 
> (1.3) General project starting guidelines for future directions/scope:
> While the details of guidelines for this work should be finalized by the
> community that forms it (along with input from the other xml.apache.org
> projects who will be using this code), there are some basics to start with:
> - Communicate status regularly with general@xml.apache.org and with other
> subprojects
> - Clearly document and checkin 'best practices' for usage of xml-commons
> code in other subprojects
> - Proactively work with other subprojects to implement and improve our
> 'best practices'
> - Provide upgrade paths and help; deprecate (or equivalent) old API's
> before removing, so other subprojects have ample time to upgrade.
> - Test and document all non-standards-based code; provide tests/additional
> documentation for standards-based code
> 
> (1.4) General guidelines for future directions/scope:
> Note this is firstly a subproject to make life inside of xml.apache.org
> easier, to enable us to more efficiently develop nifty XML projects.  As we
> gain experience in developing this subproject, an obvious future direction
> for this community will be to work on a potential AXDK (Apache XML
> Development Kit) that would be a meta-packaging-project composed out of
> several xml projects together.  The AXDK would be a way to make life for
> end-users easier: a single package of various Apache XML tools that works
> 'out of the box'. (AXDK naming credit to kellyc I think?)
> 
> (1.5) Interaction with other subprojects
> Additional guidelines can be drawn up on general@xml.apache.org for this
> subproject, and then documented and checked in.  These should include both
> how other xml subprojects should use these resources in their development
> cycles, as well as how all xml subprojects should package these resources
> when creating public, shipped distributions (to avoid version conflicts,
> etc.)  This subproject's community, along with general@xml.apache.org, will
> need to draw up guidelines for code within this subproject as well.
> 
> 
> (2) Identify the initial source from which the subproject is to be
> populated:
> Standards-based sources would be obtained from the relevant owners/creators
> and checked into the project repository. A basic build.xml file and apache
> project usage guidelines would need to be created.  Possible legal review
> would be needed for licensed files (one solution might be to waive the
> Apache license on these files).  For common xml-oriented utilities, the
> initial sources can be moved in from other xml.apache.org subprojects (cf.
> potential org.apache.xml.utils.SystemIdResolver from xml-xalan).
> 
> 
> (3) Identify the xml.apache.org resources to be created
> 
> (3.1) mailing list(s)
> xml-commons-dev
> 
> (3.2) CVS repositories
> xml-commons
> 
> (3.3) Bugzilla
> program: Commons
> components: External Standards, Common XML Utils
> 
> 
> <xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers>
> A sub-issue that I'd like people to vote on separately for whichever of the
> below option(s) they like best.
> (4) Identify the initial set of committers
> 
> (4.a) [vote-multiple] kellyc, curcuru, rubys
> (4.b) [vote-multiple] one committer from each xml.apache.org subproject
> that wants to volunteer, plus at least one PMC member (for projects that
> don't get someone volunteered)
> (4.c) [vote-multiple] all current xml.apache.org committers
> 
> </xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1-committers>
> 
> </xml-subproject-proposal-commons-v1.1>
> 
> 
> (*) Important cross-reference:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/index.html
> Jakarta is currently working on a similar, yet different, tool/util/common
> code area.  While we can steal a lot of their ideas, I think the needs of
> xml.apache.org will be different than Jakarta, so we should make our own
> community decision on how to do this.  Many thanks to the nice format for a
> proposal that I plagarized.  8-)
> 
> - Shane <shane_curcuru@lotus.com> <curcuru@apache.org>
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> In case of troubles, e-mail:     webmaster@xml.apache.org
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:          general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> In case of troubles, e-mail:     webmaster@xml.apache.org
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:          general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org
> 


=====
Davanum Srinivas, JNI-FAQ Manager
http://www.jGuru.com/faq/JNI

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
http://auctions.yahoo.com/

---------------------------------------------------------------------
In case of troubles, e-mail:     webmaster@xml.apache.org
To unsubscribe, e-mail:          general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org


Mime
View raw message