Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 57323 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2000 22:41:37 -0000 Received: from ns1.valicert.com (HELO ext-mail.valicert.com) (63.65.221.10) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 22:41:37 -0000 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.ext-mail.valicert.com by ext-mail.valicert.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #46243) id <0FXE00401HPDXB@ext-mail.valicert.com> for general@xml.apache.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seine.valicert.com ([192.168.2.23]) by ext-mail.valicert.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #46243) with ESMTP id <0FXE003N6HPDFF@ext-mail.valicert.com> for general@xml.apache.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bugs.valicert.com ([192.168.5.78]) by seine.valicert.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 3PTBZRVK; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:34:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Regan Subject: Re: [spinnaker] Announce In-reply-to: To: general@xml.apache.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, James Duncan Davidson wrote: > on 7/8/00 10:56 AM, Arnaud Le Hors at lehors@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > So far the only proof I've got is that Hotspot miserably fails on > > Xerces. This means to me that Hotspot has a problem, not xerces. > > Many many many programs work better on Hotspot than not. And the Hotspot > team has been saying for *years* now (at least 3, more than half the > lifetime of Java) what kind of optimizations would crap on them. When I > was > on the Java Web Server team, we hit almost every one. Cleaning up the > code > reversed this treand and performance picked up. Sure, people are going > to > get bit by this... Xerces wasn't the first, nor will it be the last. > I agree with this whole-heartedly. The HotSpot folks have been keeping us well informed about which optimizations we should not include in our code because they would be taking care of it for us (and, indeed, it would actually hurt more than help). I, for one, am very pleased with what HotSpot has matured into... Sincerely, Kevin Regan